SEE MY NOTES NOTED AS KH below
As I read the records surrounding the two wives of John Hampton (son of John Sr. of Scotland & NJ.)
John Hampton m-1 Isabell Redford, dtr of Wm. (only names daughter as dec'd share to heirs not named), m-1 Christian Comin, dtr of George (will only names his children)
KH – I would agree that Isabel is the first wife as she was a witness at the 1706 wedding of Jane Hampton, John I the immigrants wife, John I deceased 1702.. Since wife Christian signed a later deed in 1711 when John II sold land, she had to be wife number 2.
his children from from first marriage
1. Isabell Hampton b. c1706, m-1 Wm. Johnston, m-2 Wm. Jump
2. George Hampton b. c1708 m. Mary Colston
KH – I disagree with this since George was John II 2nd father in law and probably why son was named George, being named after grandfather George. Also, William Redford’s Will, while not naming the grandchildren did leave 30 pounds to heirs of daughter Isabel. Based on other bequests also in the will it seems to indicate that there were 3 children/grandchildren (each to get 10 pounds). That would tend to indicate that John and first wife Isabell Redford had 3 children and they were all born before 1711 when second wife Christian shows up singing a deed with John II. We know that John Jr (would be John III) that died 1751 in VA was probably one of the children, second was probably Andrew of VA/Granville NC and GA since he was born before 1713 since he bought land in VA in 1734 (1734-21 = 1713 or before) and three could have been Thomas or some have speculate a NJ William Hampton that stayed in NJ. Then he had at least two children with 2nd wife Christian = George and Isabel, named in Christian’s brother David Comin’s will.
his child from second marriage
3. Thomas Hampton m. Elizabeth...........?(widow Morris)
The will Wm. Redford 1720 only names Isabell as dec'd with heirs not named
The will of Christian's father only named his children, no mention of grand children.
The will of a David Comin dated 1715 divides his personal estate among: Margaret Frazer, David Hampton (son of David dec'd), Isabell & George HAMPTON (children of John), Mary Barnet, Hugh Frazer &John Hampton, the will doesn't say if there was a blood relationship. So since David does not mention Thomas I WOULD ASSUME he was not alive and therefore the son of the second marriage.
KH – again, I disagree since Christian was clearly the second marriage.
I do not think the second wife would name her daughter after the wife she replaced.
KH – I understand your feeling but the fact is that Christian was the second marriage and that marriage produced George & Isabel according to the will.
Any thought that the Andrew Hampton living in 1734-1735 in Shenandoah Valley, who purchased land from Jost Hite was the unnamed son of said John I am sure is not right. His purchase of the property in The Fairfax Land Suit by Hunter Branson McKay (my great-uncle). We the descendants of Robert Mackay Sr. which is why he abtracted the document into book form.
KH – why are you sure that Andrew is not the son of John II?
I have read and abtracted into book form early land deeds & wills of Frederick Co. VA. Some copies left to sell to the public. In these records the only mention of the "our" Hampton Noah, Andrew & John (and his three children Isabell, George & Thomas other deeds tie them together) really no mention of Andrew associated with John.
KH - This Andrew lived next door to John Jr (John III) on Mill Creek. This Andrew named a son John as proved via the Granville NC tax list. John Jr and Andrew were linked via one deed in VA: June 8,1744“Indenture”: .......said Andrew Hampton hath granted, bargained, sold released and confirmed ....... unto the said Benjamin Borden 200 acres of land to be divided from land David Griffith bought of from John Hampton Juner to be divided from the said Griffith land by a (survey?) drawn .....[gives description of trees, markers, etc. of the land in question mentioning the Worthington line and Borden property, etc.] ...........The possession of 500 acres by Borden is by virtue of a bargain to him thereof made by the said Andrew Hampton for one whole year of indenture..............
Now Noah & Andrew I believe you will see a link in the will of Noah, named an Andrew (only get his Big Bible) and both Noah & Andrew named in law suit filed by Rev. Wm. Williams. Will be seeking out the other children and grandchildren mentioned in Noah's will to see if other record tie these people together.
KH - Noah did also have a son named Andrew and by good evidence indicates he is the Andrew Hampton that shows up circa 1750 in Anson NC, the exact same time the other Andrew Hampton shows un in Granville NC. Two different Andrews Hampton.
The Andrew Hampton later sold his lands in this part of VA and removed down to Brunwick Co. VA (as stated in later Frederick Co. VA land deeds) and then later into Granville Co. NC. I see on the net (as pointed out to me by Mary Ann..........?) people have mixed together the records of Andrew Hampton of 1735 in VA with the Andrew Hampton who died in Rutherford Co. NC in 1805. I guess the man could have really lived to 92 years, but I am thinking really born about c1720 and therefore could not have been the Andrew Hampton who purchased land from J. Hite in 1734.
KH - You are correct, Granville Andrew was born before 1711 and the Anson Andrew was probably born circa 1725-1730.
So therefore he was younger than the Andrew Hampton who lived in Granville Co. NC went down to Jefferson Co. GA.
KH – correct.
Since there is no much bad information on the net about these two Andrew, I am trying to work up a time line on the Andrew Hampton of Rutherford Co. NC to try to trace his movements back in time. I do not see him living in Frederick Co. VA area. I have seen Lincoln Co. NC associated with this man, will check at local library for this area of NC. Perhaps he moved directly down from NJ or Cecil Co. MD area to NC not stopping in VA at all. I have had other of my families do the same thing.
KH – this Andrew was Noah’s son and moved from Hampshire CO VA on the south Branch River with the Kuykedalls and Cobourns, et. al. circa 1750 to Dutchmans/Kuykendalls/Leepers creek (yes the creek had at least three names in a 10 year period) in Anson Co NC. He only lived in two places, dutchmans creek and mountain creek in NC. The counties kept subdividing and realigning during the period so this Andrew is recorded in Anson, Mecklenburg, Tryon, Lincoln and Rutherford counties NC, but he only moved once circa 1765 after his arrival circa 1750.
The other Andrew Hampton who died 1805 in Rutherford Co. NC, either son of Andrew who died in 1725 Cecil Co. MD. Yes I know on the net that couple say he had no children. Based on the statement he left no will, but have researchers really combed the records?. I have not done so and plan to do so in the future.
Two other possible line for the Andrew of Rutherford Co. VA
John Hampton Sr. son
David Hampton died by 1715 had two sons: George (lived in MD) and David (other researcher have he removed to NC)
Or Andrew Hampton Sr. (thought to be the brother of John Jr. both of Scotland and NJ) Andrew's sons
1. John Hampton b. c1685
2. Andrew Hampton
3. Lambert Hampton
4. James Hampton had a son Jonathan
5. Thomas Hampton he was living in Essex Co. NJ as 1713
KH – this incorrect, Andrew SR of Elizabethtown NJ did not have a son Lambert (or if he did, he was not named in this father’s will, so you need to prove it to me). This Andrew JR, son of Andrew SR the immigrant died in NJ in 1748, Andrew SR the immigrant died in 1738 in NJ, so it wasn’t that Andrew if that is what you are suspecting? James son Jonathan died in NJ in 1777 and had no sons. Thomas is unknown so ??? This John is also unknown, so ????
I have plans in the future to read through land deeds for early NJ working on some of other lines, perhaps something with turn up.