Boy what tangled lines of Hankses there are! It took me a long time to sort them out to my liking, whether it's totally accurate is another thing. I relied on information given me by some very kind people on this forum as well as Verduin and Herndon's Informants. It was quite a while ago that I dove into the Hanks lines so at the moment I don't quite remember the ins and outs and where the Shipleys fit into it, but I think they were more involved with another Hanks line, not that of Joseph and Nannie Lee who were the parents of Lucey Hanks -- my rendition shows no brother for Lucey Hanks named James, but she had a sister named Nancy who was often confused with her niece, Lucey's daughter Nancy Hanks who was the mother (supposedly) of Lincoln. I did a major rehaul of the earlier Hanks lines on my website and ended up loosing the Shipleys along the way tho I know there were connections somewhere. If you're curious about what I've got (I'm not saying it's all correct by any means) here's a link to Joseph Hanks, Lucey's father: http://kerrysdavis.home.comcast.net/~kerrysdavis/p197.htm#i1965http://kerrysdavis.home.comcast.net/~kerrysdavis/p197.htm#i1965 -- my own family line is through Joseph's brother John Hanks.