Carol, are you of Calif.? You are right, of the PA Hannum's. I have been tracking the Mifflin, Perry bunch and its relations for 20 years and have yet to find the answer. I hope you do. Millie was an email friend and I had talked to her on the phone. We were stumped. We had circumstanial evidence of a relation tomCol. John, but the church records do not exist about the Col. because he was thrown out of the church at some point and his relatives are either unsure or unwilling to explain. Most of the relatives we are interested in are named for counties and thus people in the gov back then in PA. And as we know the Col and his assoc traveled in, admired... these folks. But alas, Millie, myself and several others did not succeed. I hope you do.