Dear Nancy Please forgive me for getting excited but this has to be my best breakthrough yet!I can think of too many questions at the moment so will try to be restrained. (1) I completely agree with your family listing for the children of Richard and Sarah Ann.However I have one queery over the James born 1834 who died in childhood.You see, on the wedding certificate of George Jupp and Eliza there are two witnesses listed:James Hanwell and Eleanor Louise Hanwell.As there is no Eleanor as sister I had always hoped she was the wife of James born 1834.There is a marriage of a James and an Eleanor Louise listed for Dec 1858 but I do not think I ahve got the certificate -I will check later.If however the 1834 james died young the second james would have been a little young to be married.Any thoughts? 2)I include below the 1881 census entry for George Jupp & family.You can see that Richard gives his place of birth as St Martins in Middlesex -which neatly ties in with (but is unproven) an IGI birth entry for a Richard born 1803 in St Martins.
PRO Ref RG11 Folio 90 page 12 168 Derby Buildings, St Pancras, London, Middlesex JUPP George Head M 37 Plasterer Brighton JUPP Emma W M 36 Wife St Pancras/MDSX JUPP Eliza D 13 Scholar St Pancras JUPP George S 12 ScholarSt Pancras JUPP Richard S 8 Scholar St Pancras JUPP Horace S 7 ScholarSt Pancras JUPP Ernest S 4 Scholar St Pancras JUPP Henry S 2 Scholar St Pancras HANWELL Richard Father in Law W 78 ex-Plasterer St Martins/MDSX 3)Is your Freddie the Frederick H Hanwell living with wife Annie in St Pancras (Crowndale Rd) in the 1881 census?(There is a 2 yr old son Richard) I think that is enough for the moment or this message will become too long but I look forward to hearing more from you.Perhaps you could let me know how your line decends.
Regards John PSI knew we had Jupp descendalts in the US but never realised we had Hanwell connections, however tenuous.