Hello Audrey, How are you progressing in your search with Howell Havard who married Anne? I have been gleaning information from various sources about the Havards of Senni in Defynog and connecting it into family trees.From your e-mail of June last year,it seems that Alice`s father-John Havard and her husband`s father-Howell Havard of Brychoed were brothers,making Howell and Alice first cousins.Their grandfather was also a Howell c.1730-1810.This line does go back another hundred years or so to (G)walter m.Mary Shermond who died in 1624. I would be interested to hear whatever your searches have revealed. I am no further forward in finding my g/g/grandfather`s birth(or bap.)but hope to go to National Library of Wales in Aberystwyth for more enquiries in April/May. Hope you are keeping well.Kind regards.Gordon(and Beryl)Havard.