Hi Ed, I don't have much information for you except that my father and his mother and father lived in Zanesville, OH. My grandparents are both buried in Zanesville. Their first names are Virginia and Bernard. I think I have heard my aunt talk about a Hiram in our family generations past. My grandparents were born around 1900 which would make their parents born 1870 or 80's. It is my understanding that we decended from England, a town called Hawkhurst, England. My sister had the opportunity to visit but there are no Hawkhurst left if I remember correctly. I have this charted out somewhere in a very deep box full of paper work, if I get a chance I will look for the info.