Just saw your post on William Helsby etc, I have found some information on William and also other children of Richard and Martha. I can do a Word doc on the family if you would like.
Do you have other information on William etc?
Do you have information on Richard and who his parents were?
I am trying to collect as much Helsby information as possible, have recently been in contact with a David Helsby in Manchester who I believe may have info on Gorton Helsby's but am still waiting for a reply.