Re the vagueness and lack of details of the Pilling Register near Lancaster. The IGI and book of Pilling covers the earliest Registers up to 1721. Recently I went to Preston Archives to look at records which one handwritten in Parish registers they proven to be a difficult, fortunately I managed with the Bishop Transcript to collect the missing links. You are a direct descendant of Gawin Herdman & Agnes Fox who married 30 Oct 1681 at Garstang. John who was born 1689 and married c 1714 to Sarah, unable to provide the marriage records, no record in the Boyd's marriage in the whole Lancashire Registers and they probably had 4 children or more. Gawin born 1717 son of John, he married Ann Williams on 20 Sept 1746 at Lancaster and had 3 children, Gawin was the 1st child of Gawin & Ann, born 1746 & married twice 1st to Ann Heys m 13 Apr 1766 at Pillings, 2nd to Hannah Jolly m 1 Aug 1772 at Kirkham & brought up a large family of 15 children. Gawin a Farmer & died at Cantfield, Tunstall near Lancaster, Wills proved 6 May 1831. Edward Herdman was your direct descendant & bapt Apr 1777 the 8th child of Gawin & Hannah, Edward married twice - 1st to Mary Dickson m 22 Sept 1802 at Pillings & and to Ellen Armisted m 17 May 1806 at Melling. John was the 5th child and was your Great Grandfather. I realise that John Herdman of Birkenhead married 5 times. I have some details could you send me an E-Mail and your home address, I will send you some details. Here my E-Mail address - firstname.lastname@example.org.