Dear "Cousin" James:
Thank you so much for taking the time to write me with the wonderful details you supplied.I believe that the JOHN HOFF you refer to, may have been a grandson of Derrick Hoff, as Derrick died elderly in 1730 (the same year of birth of this JOHN HOFF, making it unlikely that he was a "son" of Derrick Hoff.The ages would be about right for this JOHN HOFF, JR. to have been a grandson.
There is "a" JOHN HOFF, who is buried in the Presbyterian Cem (third row off the street) in Pennington, NJ, just about 10 miles from Maidenhead/Lawrenceville, NJ.I believe that this man was the son of DERRICK HOFF.The father moved from then Dutch settlement of "New Town" (Brooklyn), NY to Maidenhead, NJ (now Mercer Co./then Hunterdon Co.) in the early-mid 1690s, helping found the Dutch Reformed Church there in 1695.He died on 22 Dec 1730.There are no surviving church records of the very earliest burials in the old Maidenhead Dutch Reform Church (now a Presbyterian Church) there in Maidenhead/Lawrenceville (the name changed in 1815).And, it seems that the various HOFF children & any grandchildren ALL moved away (several removing to nearby Hunterdon Co., son JOHN HOFF included).There were NO "HOFFs" having surviving headstones in the adjacent Lawrenceville Presbyterian churchyard, nor the second very old burial ground a 1/2 mile down the road south, either.
However, I visited nearby Pennington, NJ (about 10 miles NW of Lawrenceville), and I visited the Presbyterian Church cemetery site there last year.I also obtained the interment records, and learned that there was a JOHN HOFF buried there.He apparently was a son of DERRICK, who moved from Maidenhead there in the early 1700s.That said, I didn't have a list of his off-spring.But, I don't think that MARGARET HOFF (1765-1854) could have been the daughter of this particular "JOHN HOFF" planted in Pennington.You mentioned that "your" MARGARET HOFF father, JOHN HOFF, was the son of this man, and he had lived in Frederick Co., MD. So, it appears that JOHN HOFF, Sr.'s son, JOHN HOFF. JR and his family removed to MD at some point.
So, without doing some additional research, I am not sure of the relationship of MARGARET HOFF HOFFMAN's father, "JOHN HOFF", (if at all) to DERRICK HOFF and/or the rest of the NJ "Dutch" Hoff "clan".There was also a "second" line of German-origin HOFFs that initially settled in Pennsylvania "Dutch" (actually Deutsch!) County, north of Philadelphia (the port of entry for them).It is possible that "your" JOHN HOFF could have been a descendant of JACOB HOFF, the initial Hoff German line's principal patriarch, and this PA German line.I have found descendants of this line in the same spot at the same time (like Marietta, Washington Co., but totally unrelated.The Hoffs that come from Richmond Co., Indiana seem to have come from this "German" line, as was the Captain Hoff on Gen. George Washington's personal staff in the Rev. War.A second line of German Hoffs also entered at the Port of Baltimore ~early 1700s, and made their way in-land, as well, further complicating things for me.Some of the family genealogists are very frustrated with the Hoffs that cycled through Loudoun Co., VA in the mid-late 1700s, and have trouble tracing their origins.I suspect that the Loudoun Co., MD, Hoffs are of this German Baltimore line.
Thanks to some great, recent proof-positive DNA testing, and some outstanding paper-proven genealogical research and "sleuthing" by my cousin, LARRY HUFF (of Frankfort, KY) and DIANE LONG (Santa Barbara), I am now satisfied that "my" POWELL HOFF's (1801 VA-1872 IA) father was AMOS HOFF (1775 VA-1855 IA), and that his father was a POWEL/POWELL HOFF/HUFF of Turkey Creek, York Co., SC (1746-1816).There were several JOHN HOFFs "upstream" in this line, and I will try to "link-up" one of them to "your" MARGARET HOFF (1764-1854).
Regarding the JOHN HOFF (a/k/a JONATHAN F. HOFF)(1775-1812) son of the Rev. DANIEL HOFF and SOPHIA MOFFETT HOFF, who came from Pr. William Co., VA, migrating in 1805 to OH (who I believed for 10+ years was my 3XG grandfather), he never lived in any of the locations you mentioned.I formerly believed that he was the father of "my" POWELL HOFF (my 2XG grandfather); but I have since been persuaded that AMOS HOFF was "the guy".So, there were numerous JOHN HOFFs (me, my father, my grand father, and 1XG grandfather, etc., included) laced throughout our Hoff lines.
So, you've provided me something to do next weekend!
Thanks again for writing me. I will get back to you if I can link her up with somebody in my Hoff line.
Best regards, /S/ "Cousin" JOHN HOFF
John S. Hoff
Attorney at Law
HOFF & HERRAN
135 S. LaSalle Street, Suite 3300
Chicago, Illinois 60603-4134
I have some info that may be useful in sorting out your Hoff/Huff lineage. My 4th g-grandfather, John Hoffman 1759/60-1823 married Margaret Hoff, 1764-1854, born in Frederick Co., Md, and died here in what is now Barbour County, WV.Margaret's single line death certificate states that she was the daughter of "John Hoff", no name for mother.
A history of Margaret's family was given by Audra Gall Lambert, a local educator now deceased, in 1988. She said that John Hoff was born in 1730 and came to Loudoun Co VA, perhaps from Trenton NJ. She gives John's father as John Hoff born c1700 in NJ who married Eve/Eva Johnson, daughter of Rutger Johnson;and she gives John Hoff's father as Derick Hoff who died before 1730 in Maiden Head Hunterdon Co NJ.
What is certain is that Robert Johnson 1744 - 1831, son of Garrett, son of Rutger, came here to Barbour Co from Hunterdon Co NJ via Frederick MD andLoudoun Co VA and some Hoffs, Vannoys and an Ebenezer Kelleyalso came here from the same place via the same route in the same time frame. The families were all intermarried. My John Hoffman's father Jacob was also said to have come to Loudoun Co from NJ. A John "Hough" is on the Loudoun Co tax list for 1787-88-89 along with Anthony, John, John Jr,Joseph, and William. Then in 1810 William and Anthony are in Randolph (now Barbour) Co VA with families. Some descendants of these Hoffs may have a more complete history.
From "Maxwell's History of Barbour County": "The Hoff family came from Germany in 1750 and settled in New Jersey and later some of the family moved to Virginia and some to Ohio. Three brothers came from Germany, one spelling his name Hoff, another Huff and the third Hough."
Note: Maxwell's History is known to have a lot of hearsay in it when it comes to family origins. First edition was written in 1922.
Note: Audra Gall Lambert gathered her evidence regarding the Hoffs before the internet was in wide use and she was a well educated woman.
Google her full name to read her bio.
Note: It may seem unlikely to you that John Hoff would move from NJ to MD and then across the Potomac to VA and perhaps to present day WV, but it was a route of westward migration before the road to Pittsburgh was opened up. Pioneers simply followed the various branches of the Potomac.
I hope this gives you a new place to look in your search for your John Hoff. He may have indeed gone to VA or MD, but further west than you might have thought. I'd like to know if he's the same one we claim.
You may be able to find some more info by searching "Robert Johnson and Mary Vannoy"," Ebenezer Kelley and Rachel Johnson"," John Hoffman and Margaret Hoff".
Please let me know what you think.
James A Hoffman
RR 2 Box 122
Belington WV 26250