Eunice Holsenbeck and Gertrude Stephens, known to me as "Uncle Eunice and Aunt Gertie" were related to me. Yes, they had a daughter named Elsie. But she was not their natural child, she was adopted. After Uncle Eunice and Aunt Gertie passed away, I believe she went about trying to locate her natural birth mother. If I remember correctly, her birth mother had also passed away by that time. She then changed her name to that of her birth mother. I am not sure but it was something like Mary Nell. Elsie ( I knew her when Uncle Eunice and Aunt Gertie were still alive. ) was married, and had a son. Uncle Eunice was I believe, my fathers uncle, my grandfathers brother. My grandfather was Alfred E. Holsenbeck, His wife (my grandmother) was named Fannie.