Hi, i dont think that mine are related directly.They originate from Oldham/ Rochdale.My great grandfather was called Albert (nickname Talt b.c1861) married to a lady called Janet Winterbottom (b c 1860).For many years they ran a pub called Success to the Plough, which is still there.(Middleton)
If theres a link i'd be delighted.
another coincidence, my dads cousin Lilly married a man called Joe Howarth (? dob 1915-20s) and they lived in Rochedale