Inglebys / Ingilbys of Ripley Castle - and speculative link with Gainsborough, Lincs
Apologies for not having responded sooner: I have only just discovered this site, and your entry on it. It might explain the source of some of the more bizzarre 'Ripley' enquiries that I have been receiving and answering for the last few years! I am Sir Thomas Ingilby, the current owner of Ripley Castle and named author of the published history of the castle and Ingilby family.
There are four settlements callled Ripley in England: Ripley, North Yorkshire, which is where Ripley Castle is, is a small village pop. approx 200. Ripley, Derbyshire is a much larger town. Ripley near Guildford in Surrey is a smallish village south west of London. Ripley in Hampshire is a small settlement on the edge of the New Forest, near the south coast. On the basis that 'John of Ripley' became John Ripley to distinguish him from the Johns that lived in other villages, it follows that anyone with the surname Ripley (and English roots) could have originated from any of the four Ripleys.
I am grateful to Mrs Eileen Longstreet of California - who has very kindly agreed that she can be contacted at firstname.lastname@example.org - for the following information, which relates to the Ripley family who lived in Ripley, North Yorkshire, in the twelth century.
1st Generation: Roger de Rippclay / Rippelay / Ripley
2nd generation: son: Thomas Rippelay, wife Margaret
3rd generation: sons:
Roger dec Rippelay, giving lands to Fountains Abbey.
brother: Bernard de Rippelay, clerk of Ripley.
brother: Richard de Rippelay (note that this Richard Ripley was so named well before 'the dreamer' king Richard)
4th generation: son William de Rippelay. Here occurs a name change to 'de Dallas' somewhere between here and the sons as the Ripleys moved north to Dallas, near Inverness, Scotland.
5th generation: son: Alexander de Dallas, named in an investment inquisition in 1262
Archibald de Dallas: also named in Inverness inquisition
Sir William de Dallas: held a King William the Lion charter of 1279 confirming the lands of Dolys Mykel / Dallas Michael baroney within the shire of Moray, and naming Willelmum of Rypeley as his progenitor.
I can confirm that the evidence for the Ripley end of this does indeed exist in local records: the Scottish records can apparently be found in charters and legal documents up there, and are referred to in 'The History of the Family of Dallas and their Connection and Descendants from the Twelth Century' by the late James Dallas, F.L.S, Oxford (T&A Constable Ltd, Edinburgh, 1921).
The Ripley family never owned or occupied Ripley Castle. The manor mentioned in the medieval charters is Catton (now Cayton), a remote and even today inaccessible area of land one mile north east of Ripley Castle and village. The manor of Cayton didn't survive long: the settlement was abandoned in the early 1300's following the outbreaks of plague, that wiped out almost one quarter of the district's population. Cayton was an area closely associated with nearby Fountains Abbey: the Cistercian monks established a grange (farming outpost) with fish ponds and pottery at Cayton. The outlines of the settlement can still be seen in the fields, but none of the old buildings survived and it is still very poor quality farmland. There is no record of any family by the name of Ripley living in Ripley beyond the very early 1300's, and there are no Ripley tombstones or memorials at Ripley church, which was built in 1390 by Sir Thomas Ingleby of Ripley Castle and his wife, Eeanor Mowbray - both of whom are buried there. The Ripleys had left the area by then. Their land passed to the de Bordesdens, then on to the Mauleverers, and finally onto the Inglebys through a Mauleverer / Ingleby marriage.
Wharram Percy is another (but much more famous) deserted medieval farming settlement a good fifty miles east of Ripley. If Sarah Ripley got married there it is highly likely (in line with English tradition) that her parents lived in Wharram Percy. Is there any connection between Sarah Ripley of Wharram Percy and any of the Ripley's who lived at Cayton? I don't know!
Ripley Castle's ownership is very well documented: at the time of the Domesday Book (1089) the manor of Ripley was held by Ralph Pagenel, one of William of Normandy's close associates. The other landowners at the time were Archil, Ramchil and Merlesuan. Ralph Pagenel's son, Geoffrey, anglicised his name to Fitzpaynel, or Fitzpayne: his grandson William was nicknamed 'Trusbutt' after his mother's coat of arms (in French 'trois bottes' or three water bottles) and liked the name so much that he adopted it officially. The estate passed through marriage (I will spare you the details)and was eventually inherited by one of Trusbutt's descendants, Edeline Thweng. It formed part of her dowry when she married Sir Thomas Ingleby in 1308/9. Sir Thomas Ingleby lived at Haughton le Skerne, 30 miles north of Ripley, and owned several nearby manors, including that of Ingleby Greenhow, which they retained for some time aftewards. The Ingleby / Ingilby family (the spelling changed in 1780) has lived at Ripley Castle ever since that marriage, and I am part of the 25th generation to live here over the last 698 years - a highly unusual example of continuity, even in England. Curiously I believe that a junior branch of the Ingleby family, who remained in or around Haughton le Skerne, may have emigrated to America in the 16th century, taking many of their archives with them. Someone told me that there are a lot of (some very early) Ingleby archives in the Congressional Libraray in Washington. I haven't had time to explore these, but would love to know what they are and who they relate to: can any American Inglebys help?
If any of you ever get a chance to visit Ripley church you will see the wonderful tombchest made for Sir Thomas and Lady Edeline Ingleby: their lifesize figures lie recumbent, carved from stone, on the top. The current church was founded in 1390 by his son, also called Thomas: Thomas had his parent's tombchest moved from the old church to the new when the old church was undermined by springs and the nearby river Nidd. Successive Ingleby ancestors have been buried in Ripley church ever since, and there are literally thousands of documents (charters, conveyances, legal documents, rental records etc) in the Ingilby archives at the West Yorkshire Archive Service in Leeds and elsewhere to confirm the family's occupation of Ripley Castle from the 1300's to the present day.
Although the oldest surviving part of the Castle today is the Gatehouse built by Sir John Ingilby (1434-1457) and his wife Margery Strangeways: their coat of arms is still just discernible, carved in a stone above the archway, during recent restoration work we discovered a twelfth century wall intact inside the castle, and a painting of the castle in 1780 shows that part of the building in existence at that time was clearly built in the style of that period.
I will clear up some of the other mistakes that have crept into your hypothesis. Anne Mallory, who married Sir William Ingleby (1518-1578) was the daughter of Sir William Mallory of Studley, the next door parish to Fountains Abbey. Spofforth Manor / Spofforth Castle is (it still exists today, a dramatic ruin) fifteen miles from Ripley, near Wetherby. It was one of many castles owned by the Dukes of Northumberland, and Sampson Ingleby, Sir William's younger brother, looked after it for the duke. The building is totally unrelated to the Boar's Head Hotel in the centre of Ripley, which used to be the Star Inn, one of four pubs in the village at the time - we changed the name when we renovated and extended it in 1989. The name is taken from the Ingilby family crest. Sir Thomas Ingleby (1310-1369)was a justice of the King's Bench under Edward III, the only judge to hold that position apart from the Chief Justice. Whilst hunting with the king in the royal hunting Forest of Knaresborough (which covered a large area of land close to Ripley) he saved the king's life when the king was attacked by a wild boar and thrown from his horse. The king granted the Ingleby family our title (which is why I am Sir Thomas), garnted us the boar's head as our crest, allowed us to hold a market and feast in Ripley and granted the family the right of free warren (the right to hunt) anywhere in the royal hunting forest of Knaresborough. The charters are in the West Yorkshire Archives in Leeds.
Sir William had a brother called John, but not one called William. John lived at Ascomb Grange near York and Hutton Rudby near Yarm, and was governor of the port of Leith, Edinburgh. He then bought the manor of Clapham, Clapdale Manor and Lawkland Hall, near Settle in North Yorkshire, from Sir John Yorke: his descendants continued to live there until the late 1800's. Although we don't think that John ever lived in Lincolnshire, the connection with that county is likely to have come via his mother, Cecilia, daughter of Sir George Talboys of Kyme in Lincolnshire. She was co-heir to her father's lands, with her brother Gilbert, Lord Talboys. After her husband died in 1528 (he is buried in Ripley church) she married John Tourney of Caenby, Lincolnshire, and had a son, John.
You say that the Ingleby family events were Church of England up to the 1700's, but they weren't: the family was very strongly Roamn Catholic up to the 17th century and Francis Ingleby (1550-1586) was hung, drawn and qaurtered for his faith in York, having become a Catholic seminary priest after apparently experiencing a miracle while asleep in his chamber at Ripley Castle. His brother David helped numerous Catholic priests to travel around the North of England and they became known as 'the most dangerous papists in the north', and were subjected to a huge manhunt. Francis Ingleby was beatified by pope John Paul in Rome on 22nd November, 1987.
You can help me: our records on Thomas Ingleby (b1595) are very sparse indeed: all we have recorded here is that he was admitted to Grey's Inn in London (ie became a lawyer), and died without progeny. We don't have any record of his marriage to Judith Huddleston of Grimoldby, Lincolnshire, or of any children resulting from that marriage. We also didn't have a record of his marriage to Sarah Ripley of Wharram Percy. Grimoldby isn't too far from Caenby in Lincolnshire so the context makes sense, and Caenby and Grimoldby are not far from Gainsborough - see the other letters in this section relating to Inglebys in Gainsborough, Lincs. You could help me and help solve several other user's queries if you can elaborate on the Ingleby / Huddleston marriage and the children that resulted.
The numerous references to 'the Ingleby nose' in this section (hugely entertaining - thanks!) would tend to lend strong credence to the historical connection. My nose is remarkably normal, but 'the Ingleby nose' is legendary and we used to tease my sister about hers. I am delighted to hear that the bloodline continues so strongly, even in our more remote branch lines, four hundred years later!
Anyone wanting a copy of the Ripley Castle Guide Book, which details the family history in far more detail, please contact me direct: email@example.com.