hello pat, this is jenny. carol and i were there last saturday and talk to you about the isler fram. we have some things about our family that we would like for you to see. i am going to mail you some things about our mom and her mom. we found out that our moms moms name was addie and her dads name was james.will send them to you. thanks so much for helping us. we really want to keep in touch. we are going to come and spend the day very soon. will call first.thanks jenny and carolpanama city, fl.