HI MARY: I'm sorry I dont know any more than you do about PHEREBY KEEN or her mother - but I am descended from Phereby's brother, WILLIS KEEN and his wife, MARGARET ELIZABETH SCOTT, thru their son, James Tully Keen; then thru their son, William "Rufus" Keen, who was my grandfather. I'd love to discuss this family with you further, if interested. Please feel to email me if you'd like, or reply here... either way is ok with me! My brother, a "Keene", has just completed the Ydna testing for the Keene line - will be glad to share results with anyone interested. We ARE *NOT* descended from "JOHN KEEN * ELIZABETH CURLEE." THANKS, TINA KEENE PEDDIE/CAemail:firstname.lastname@example.org psI suspect that our Willis' father WILLIAM KEEN *may * have been son of WILLIAM KEEN & CHRISTIAN KEEN.... a few of us are working on proving or disproving that.