Lois, All I know about William Ketner is what is in my original message. I only found that out through his son's (John's) death certificate. And then I checked the 1850 PA census. Although John wouldn't have been born yet, The William listed has a wife named Catharine, which would be correct. I am ASSUMING this is the correct family. I am positive that this family ended up in Pottsville. I have a Family Group sheet that I can send to you. Perhaps you could see how it fits in with what you have? Email me back... I don't check the postings too often.