Sorry about the delayed response and thank you for all this insights. In an earlier posting, you asked me about my Devines and asked if a certain Pat Devine (b.@ 1800) and his wife Mary Mullany (b@1800-1805) were the parents of my Tom Devine (b. 12/23/1839) who married Catherine Mullany (b. 1844/45); yes, those are Tom's parents.