Hi Bill,Thanks so much for the help.I am almost positive that the grandfather's given name must have been Lawrence but that is not a for sure thing. The names James or John were possible.His wifes name was Simonne. They lived in the Berkeley area in the early 1900's and the son is listed as having two different names. One is Lawrence Francis which is what we have always called him and the California birth index has him as being Lawrence Emmett. He was born in San Francisco which I think the parents lived at one time.He is surpose to have a sister by the name of Henrietta who I think would probably be younger but I can't find anything on her at all.Simonne was a Cabot or Chabot and was born in France. Her sister's lived close by in the area and they were all red headed.