Bruce, a couple of questions: 1. Who do you have listed as the wife of Robert Kinsman? and do you have any BMD on her? 2. Concerning "Genealogical Record of the Descendants of Robert Kinsman, of Ipswich, Mass, from 1634 to 1875" by Lucy W Stickney 1876. I have been in contact with Michael Kinsman from his website.His eight generation ancestry of Robert B 1603 comes from this source. Do you use this source for Robert B 1603 ancestry, or have you you come across something else? What do you have as Robert Kinsman B 1603 ancestry?