I am no expert, but I have visited Hungary (everyone should spend time there - it is great !). Thre are only a few great cities in Europe - and Budapest in definitely one of them ! Did you know it has the second oldest subway in the world (after London) ? Even older than NYC or Boston !
Here are some useful sources of info:
- http://www.lib.utexas.edu/Libs/PCL/Map_collection/http://www.lib.utexas.edu/Libs/PCL/Map_collection/ - University of Texas at Austin - extensive collection of MAPS OF THE WORLD showing all historical, ethnic, religious, political, military periods for MOST PARTS of the WORLD -Federation of East European Family History Societies (FEEFHS)
P. O. Box 510898, Salt Lake City, Utah 84151-0898 - THE Pioneer Web Portal for Central and East European Genealogy since May 1995 - FEEFHS RESOURCE GUIDE, FEEFHS INTERNET JOURNAL, and FEEFHS RESEARCH LIBRARY - The entire web portal is © Copyright 1999 by FEEFHS, all rights reserved.
Richard Carruthers-Zurowski - email@example.com - says: I am an outside heraldic consultant to the Canadian Heraldic Authority in Ottawa, a government arms-granting agency. I consult the Siebmacher Series at the Carleton University library in Ottawa, Ontario. The works by Nagy Ivan are also found there.
Federation of East European Family History Societies (FEEFHS)
P. O. Box 510898, Salt Lake City, Utah 84151-0898 - THE Pioneer Web Portal for Central and East European Genealogy since May 1995 - FEEFHS RESOURCE GUIDE, FEEFHS INTERNET JOURNAL, and FEEFHS RESEARCH LIBRARY - The entire web portal is © Copyright 1999 by FEEFHS, all rights reserved.
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East European Maps - http://feefhs.org/maps/indexmap.htmlhttp://feefhs.org/maps/indexmap.html -
- http://feefhs.org/ah/indexah.htmlhttp://feefhs.org/ah/indexah.html - A major website for INFO on POLAND, HUNGARY, SLOVENIA, GALICIA, CZECH REPUBLIC, SLOVAKIA, BUKOVINA, BANAT Genealogy Listserver (for Hungary, Romania, Serbia, Croatia), TRANSYLVANIA
- http://feefhs.org/ah/gal/bookrev.htmlhttp://feefhs.org/ah/gal/bookrev.html - Pradziad "Ancestor" Databases Now in Book Form "in Ten Polish Words or Less" - A Book Review by Gayle Schlissel Riley
- http://feefhs.org/ah/gal/update-1.htmlhttp://feefhs.org/ah/gal/update-1.html - Records from Halic (Galicia) area of present-day Poland in the days of the Austria-Hungary when it was part of the A-H Empire.
The Banat was made up of parts of the Hungarian counties of Temes, Torontol, and Krasso-Szereny.
- http://www.feefhs.org/banat/frgbanat.htmlhttp://www.feefhs.org/banat/frgbanat.html -
- http://www.feefhs.org/banat/bdb/townban.htmlhttp://www.feefhs.org/banat/bdb/townban.html -
- http://german.genealogy.net/gene/reg/ESE/dsinfo.htmhttp://german.genealogy.net/gene/reg/ESE/dsinfo.htm -
The above sites concentrate primarily on the German settlers (1748-1835) in the Banat area, formerly part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, and now divided among Romania, Yugoslavia and Hungary.
There is a mailing list - BANAT-L - for those doing research in the Banat region of what was formerly Hungary. To subscribe, send
email to: - firstname.lastname@example.org -
If you look on the map, the Danube River divides in this area. North of the main river is the Kis Duna (Small Danube). This area between Komárom and Pozsony was called Nagy Csallóköz or Gross (Large) Schütt in German, and Velky Ostrov Zitny in Slovak. The other Kl. Shütt means Klein or Small Schütt and is south of the main river.
In the 19th century, Puntigam was a suburb of Graz (then in Styria, Austria). The War Archives in Vienna might have info on soldiers from there who served with Emperor Maximilian in Mexico during the ill-fated campaigns of the 1860's.
Halic (Galicia) in southern Poland became part of Austria-Hungary starting from abt. 1784 +/- 5 years.
Embassy of the Republic of Hungary
3910 Shoemaker St. NW
Washington D.C. 20008
TEL: (202) 362-6730
FAX: (202) 966-8135
Know exactly what it is you are looking for, otherwise you will most likely get "The Runaround". Try to time your call when the rates are cheapest from your area, because you're likely to spend a good amount of time "on hold".
MAJOR INFO SOURCE: - http://www.radixindex.comhttp://www.radixindex.com - As of 1 February 2000, visit the Radix site. Janos Bogardi, who maintains it, has a wealth of useful information, links and services. Bookmark it and visit it frequently. When complete in 2000, Janos Bogardi expected to have some 380,000 records in the database. You can also get these documents from the FHC (Family History Center) of your local Mormon church.
There was a census done in 1891 to document labor/craftsman. The RADIX webpage - http://www.radixindex.comhttp://www.radixindex.com - by Janos Bogardi lists craftsmen and shopkeepers in Hungary in 1891, according to the national census. There are both accented and non-accented surname lists. NOTE: the book does not have a personal name index. The book gives its names in the alphabetical order of professions, then by alphabetical names of cities and towns. Thus, even if somebody knows the place of origin of his researched person, now knowing his profession would force him to check all the professions.
This is a really valuable resource, because genealogy research materials in some of the successor states are either non extant, destroyed, damaged or simply non accessible because of lack of archival control or because of restrictions on use.
You can click to see a sample page from the book. The profession name is given in Hungarian, Slovak, German, and French.
MAJOR INFO SOURCE: - http://www.genforum.genealogy.com/hungary/http://www.genforum.genealogy.com/hungary/ -
MAJOR INFO SOURCE: - http://www.matav.hu/tudakozo/index2.htmlhttp://www.matav.hu/tudakozo/index2.html - or - http://www.matav.hu/tudakozo/istart_e.htmlhttp://www.matav.hu/tudakozo/istart_e.html - HUNGARIAN (White Page) TELEPHONE LISTINGS - the service provider now hides house numbers on the display. They say this is to protect privacy.
The site - http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/vmlista.htmhttp://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/vmlista.htm - has (at the very bottom) a map showing all the counties in the Old Kingdom of Hungary. You can see a 1910 map of the counties at the same site.
MAJOR INFO SOURCE: - The 1828 Hungarian Census is (the only one ?) available on microfilm to date. Keep track of the house numbers with the families you are researching from the church records, then check them against the 1828 Hungarian Census. This census listed the house numbers, and the names of the occupants in the village - a marvelous resource ! At first, the numbers were assigned to the houses as they were built; so 196 would not necessarily be next to 197. Today the system is similar to most other countries. You will find the Residence # to be a very good way of finding family names in the records. Scan the records and look for the info you want !
Besides the 1828 Census, there was also one for 1869. For Damoc, Zemplen Megy, there was even an 1857 Census. This was very good because it contained the maiden name of the wife, year of birth, the names of all the children and their years of birth. It was an extremely helpful census to work with.
"Jaj, egy masik buszke Magyar paraszt.""Oh, another proud Hungarian peasant".
The 1900 Census for Austria-Hungary can give you information on the number of children, how long they have been in the country, years married, etc. You need to get a precise birth location if possible. If you don't know this, get the estimated date your ancestors sailed to North America, then search the passenger lists for the boats. This is very hard work. Once you find them on a passenger list, it will then tell you where in Hungary they came from (town, county) and usually where they are going. Once you know this, you could probably find the LDS microfilms for the birth and marriage records for their town. U.S. Immigration and ship manifests, and other immigration records, are available through US Government and several different sources.
There was a muster rolls from the city of Bekescsaba for 1872-1915. You can get these documents from the FHC (Family History Center) of your local Mormon church.
MAJOR INFO SOURCE: - "Hungarian Genealogy" by Nagy Iván and Magyar Nemzetségi Zsebkönyve.
"The Families of Hungary" has one page about the Kenessey noble family. There is also a CD - order it at - http://sphosting.com/hungencdhttp://sphosting.com/hungencd + "Families of Hungary" by Iván Nagy, 1857 Edition, gives the noble provenance and towns, etc. of many Hungarian noble names. Nagy Iván's work's lengthy full title is "Magyarország Családai Czímerekkel és Nemzékrendi Táblákkal". It runs to _? volumes plus a supplement. Use it along with the map - http://www.mapquest.comhttp://www.mapquest.com - to help locate where your family (may have) lived. NOTE: This book contains only aristocratic families and is in Hungarian !
"Noble Families of Hungary" by Bela Kempelen, Budapest, ca 1910 (? "Magyar Nemes Csaladok" in *Magyar/*Hungarian) is available on microfilm through the Mormon Family History Center. It has a paragraph or two on most noble families and sometimes includes a description of the family's coat of arms.
FLASH !!! Zoltan Kosztolanyi says: You can now buy the "Hungarian Genealogy" books on CD-ROM. This is the "Families of Hungary" by Nagy Iván, with family crest and trees originally published in Pest between 1857 and 1868 in 13 volumes. The CD-ROM contains 6,500 pages of text, 550 crests, 3,700 family trees and more than 10,000 family details. I had the books republished in facsimile edition in Budapest in 1988. With this released CD the research will be much quicker and easier. A knowledge of Hungarian is required. If anyone is interested to have this CD just drop me a line for details of the Budapest based publisher. NOTE: This book contains only aristocratic families and is in Hungarian !
"Orszagos Leveltar"(OL), or "Noble Certificates: The Book of Kings" by Béla Kempelen, will be published soon on CD-ROM.
Eötvös György is a partner and managing director of Családfa (Family Tree), a professional genealogy company in Budapest, Hungary. The web address is - http://www.familytree.huhttp://www.familytree.hu - and his e-mail address is - email@example.com -
Go to website - http://www.tranexp.com2000/intertranhttp://www.tranexp.com2000/intertran - and type
in your message URL -http://genforum.genealogy.com/hungary/messages/3323.htmlhttp://genforum.genealogy.com/hungary/messages/3323.html - This website will translate from many languages to English + 729 other different languagess). It is not the best translation, but it gives you an idea of what it says.
Nagyon köszönöm ! Thanks a (whole) lot !
Versuchen sie mal: - http://www.babelfish.altavista.comhttp://www.babelfish.altavista.com - Check this out for translation from German to English, or English to German.
Virgin Mary, mother of God, pray for us = Sz Maria Isten Anyja Imadkozz Erettunk ! (Sz. means "Virgin"; Szt. is "Saint")
The U.S. Army Hungarian Phrase Book of the 1950's is the best. Its pronunciation guides, based on American English phonetics, are superior to those of similar books published in Hungary. It contains about 50% military terms - not all that useful these days.
NTC's HUNGARIAN and ENGLISH Dictionary by Tamás Magay and László Kiss, NTC Publishing Group, 4255 West Touhy Avenue, Lincolnwood (Chicago), Illinois 60646-1975. Cost is U$20.00+.
- http://www.starlap.comhttp://www.starlap.com - on-line Anglo-Hungarian Dictionary - follow "Szótár", select "angol-magyar", then write in the word you want.
Matav Hungarian Phone Book On-line - http://www.matav.hu/tudakozo/istart_e.htmlhttp://www.matav.hu/tudakozo/istart_e.html -
- http://www.switchboard.com/bin/cgiqa.dll?MEM=1http://www.switchboard.com/bin/cgiqa.dll?MEM=1 - PHONE listings
- http://www.pictdesign.com/stones.htmhttp://www.pictdesign.com/stones.htm -
- http://yakamo.20m.com/po2.htmhttp://yakamo.20m.com/po2.htm -
The following Universities are located in Budapest:
Bánki Donát Mûszaki Fõiskola
Bárci Gusztáv Gyógypedadógiai Tanárképzõ Fõiskola
Bolyai János Katonai Mûszaki Fõiskola
Budapesti Közgazdaságtudományi Egyetem
Budapesti Mûszaki Egyetem
Budapesti Tanítóképzõ Fõiskola
Central European University
Eötvös Loránd Tudományegyetem
Gábor Dénes Fõiskola
Haynal Imre Egészségtudományi Egyetem, Családorvosi
Kandó Kálmán Mûszaki Fõiskola
Kalazantínum Piarista Hittudományi és Tanárképzõ Fõiskola
Károli Gáspár Református Egyetem
Kereskedelmi és VendéglátóipariFõiskola
Kertészeti és Élelmiszeripari Egyetem
Könnyûipari Mûszaki Fõiskola
Magyar Iparmûvészeti Fôiskola
Magyar Testnevelési Egyetem
Pázmány Péter Katolikus Egyetem
Semmelweis Orvostudományi Egyetem
Sola Scriptura Lelkészképzõés Teológiai Fõiskola
Szent Pál Akadémia
Zrinyi Miklós Nemzetvédelmi Egyetem
Records of Birth, Marriage, Death
- http://www.bmi.net/jjaso/http://www.bmi.net/jjaso/ - URL with a guide to translations in Hungarian, Latin, and Slovak church records.
- http://www.bmi.net/jjaso/index.htmlhttp://www.bmi.net/jjaso/index.html - gives examples of marriage, death, and baptism registers in Magyar and Latin. Not every register was the same, so you need to adapt it to yours, just using the context of what is in the columns.
You can also try to use the following online-dictionary - http://www.sztaki.hu/services/engdict/http://www.sztaki.hu/services/engdict/ -
In church "anyakonyv" (register), births were recorded until at least the early 1940's in the Magyar fashion with the Father's name "es neje" = "and wife", giving the wife's maiden name.
Birth, Death and Marriage Records from 1866 to 1895 are available for the Presbyterian (Református) Church records in Balsa, Szabolcs megye (county). Go to the nearest Mormon Family Library Center and ask for film Number 632124.
The Greek Orthodox (Görög Katolikus) Church records are available from 1813 to 1895 in LDS/FLC Film Number 601578.
Marriage records in NY State give birthplaces of immigrants. Send nominal payment and the request form to: - http://www.vitalrec.com/nycounties1.html#Newhttp://www.vitalrec.com/nycounties1.html#New York City - Vital Records Info fo ALL counties in NY State (NOTE: nycounties1 = A-D; nycounties2 = E-M; nycounties3 = N-R; nycounties4 = S-Y)
Györ (City & County)
# 838 - webpages with basic information:
- http://testver.sednet.hu/gyorm/telep/gyorsove/e_tel.htmlhttp://testver.sednet.hu/gyorm/telep/gyorsove/e_tel.html - and other one about Gyõr-Moson-Sopron County:
- http://www.different.hu/hunmap/eng/gyor.htmlhttp://www.different.hu/hunmap/eng/gyor.html -
# 3896 - Gyarmat is in Gyõr megye (county) and in Sokoróaljai járás (district). The district seat is in Tét. Since most of the towns surrounding Gyarmat (Takácsi, Csikvánd, Gecse, Malomsok etc) have only Presbyterian or Lutheran churches, I would try Tét or Tétszenkút (same place). Two towns make up Tétszentkút. Tét and Szentkút. Gyömöre is also fairly close with a R. C. Church.
The 1973 issue Map of Hungary shows Gyarmat clearly in Veszprem Co. In another time period, might it have been in Györ Co ?
# 3902 - László says: I was born in Gyõr and grew up in Veszprém megye and still have many family connections in the area. I have very detailed maps listing every town in today's Hungary, and I am VERY familiar with this area. The Megye lines are not very defined in some maps. Gyarmat is only about 1 km from the Veszprém county border. The megye line dips south just east of Gyarmat and goes back north again. If you look at the map Gecse is in Veszprém megye but Gyarmat, Szerecseny and Csikvárd are in Gyõr-Moson-Sopron megye.
If you can read Hungarian look at the following site: - http://www.arrabonet.gyor.hu/index.htmlhttp://www.arrabonet.gyor.hu/index.html - Click on: Megyénk bemutatkozása - Not all of the towns are listed but Gyarmat is. Some with photographs.
MAPS & CHARTS
ShtetlSeeker - Town Search
- http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/loctown.htmhttp://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/loctown.htm -
Maps from Vas megye (County):
1. Beginning of the 20th century:
- http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/vas.jpghttp://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/vas.jpg -
2. Beginning of the 21th century:
Ujfalu means "New Village". Abauj-Torna Megye is a former Hungarian County (Megye) now mostly in Slovakia. You can find Abaujszanto in the southern part of the county on the map of Abauj-Torna at - http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/abauj-t.jpghttp://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/abauj-t.jpg -
Tolcsva, Zemplen-Megy -http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/zemplen.jpghttp://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/zemplen.jpg - and see an old map of Zemplen County that shows the village of Tocsva and Vamosujfalu just west of the town of Sarospatak, in the center of the yellow section of the map.
Göncruszka was in Abauj-Torna megye (county) of old Hungary, járás (district) of Gönc. It is still in Hungary today, located northeast of Miskolc near the Slovakian border.
- http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/ung.jpghttp://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/ung.jpg - the town of Csicser in the SW-corner of the Ung megye (county) is now Cicavorce in Slovakia. The ung.jpg file is 611 k and it takes a little time to download.
See Hobgart on the old map of Spis' (Magyar: Szepes) county at: - http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/szepes.jpghttp://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/szepes.jpg - Hobgart became Chmelnica, today known as "Chmel'ov", which is 30 km NE of Presov town. Chmel'nica today is just 4 miles from the Polish border. In Slovak, the word "chmel'" means hops, the bitter herb used to flavor beer. Hobgart is the German version of the name and means "hops garden." Near the top of the map, just east of O'lublo', the Magyar name for Stara' L'ubovn'a is shown with the Magyar name Komloskert. "Komlos" means 'hops' in Magyar, and "kert" means 'garden'.
Many Hungarians emigtrating to America left from the port of Bremen, in Germany on the Neckar River. Some went from Hamburg, and others from ports in Italy (Genoa - or Trieste while it was still part of Austria-Hungary).
- http://www.rootsweb.comhttp://www.rootsweb.com - the Banat Ship Lists give the passengers listed by alphabetical order and by city. Type in the last name of "Paki" (w/o quotation marks). One of the listings will come up as 'David Dreyers Ship Lists of the Banat', letter P. After you get to that site, each letter is listed and you can click on it to get to all names beginning with that letter. Be sure to investigate all possible spellings, as names are often found under a different spelling than their name (example: Bill instead of Bell). Budapest is not in the Banat region, but it's still worth a try.
"Zepes" refers to the former county, now in Slovakia, that was called Szepes by Magyar-speakers and Spis' by Slovaks. It's also possible, but less likely, that itrefers to the town of Spis'ska' Nova Ves (= Spis' New Town). Regarding the different spellings of the surname: Szarna would be the Magyar version, which would become Sarna in English, Latin, or Slovak. Pavlik would appear to be a Slovak or Rusyn surname, derived from the first name Pavel = Paul.
In Cleveland OH, between 1890 and 1950, Slovak and Hungarian immigrants shared attendance at St. Ladislaus Church, now long closed down.
Patricia Dettloff website - http://www.geocities.com/mcpattymhttp://www.geocities.com/mcpattym - traces one line of Poljak/Pollak b. 7-15-1905 in Butler, PA, and Juhász/Yuhas, both of Slovak descent.
1920 Bridgeport, CT Hungarian Families
Naturalization records from the Bridgeport, CT Superior Court are in the National Archives in Waltham, MA. There are sheets and sheets of entries of Hungarian families who during the 1920 census lived in the Black Rock and Hung Town neighborhood. If you want a full picture of the Hungarian community in Bridgeport, CT in 1920, the federal census is your source. They referred to the Hungarian area of Bridgeport as "Hung Town". Now it's a rough area of town, but had some beautiful homes. It is right next to the railroad tracks.
John and Mary Wargo Pastor lived in the 1920's around Bridgeport CT. John was a partner in Bridgeport Casket Hardware Company. Louis Standish, a distant relative of Pastor, says his father was the other partner and made "underground jewelry", the hardware for the caskets.
Illona Imri (or Ella Emery) married Andrew Sulik, and helped "host" Hungarian families in the 1920's around Bridgeport CT. He was not a citizen at the time of their marriage. The laws of the time meant that she lost her citizenship, until Andrew became a naturalized citizen.
The letter "y" exists in Magyar; however, words beginning with "y" are rare, and the few which do seem to be borrowed from other
languages. The Magyar "j" is sounded as an English "y", so an American name Yankus is likely Jankus in the old country.
In Nemetbanya, there is a stone war memorial with about 24 different names for soldiers who lost their lives during WW I and WW II.
Untitled Noble Names
"Noble Families of Hungary" by Bela Kempelen, Budapest, ca 1910 (? "Magyar Nemes Csaladok" in Magyar) is available on microfilm through the Mormon Family History Center. It has a paragraph or two on most noble families and sometimes includes a description of the family's coat of arms.
Many Hungarian families were armigerous (had coats of arms) and noble (not always coterminous) but were members of the untitled as opposed to the titled nobility of Hungary. Nagy Ivan does give a scanty genealogical account of at least one of the families (Asbóth), but provides less information about the other families (Csikány de Ilény, Ratsay de Ratsa, Keczkés). These families all turn up in Austrian Bukovina in the late 18th and 19th centuries largely as members of the Austrian administrative machine.
The Noble "-ss[e]y"
Any Magyar surname with the "-ss[e]y" ending denotes nobility.
One Hungarian noble family were the Tollassy. Before being "made noble" in 1794, they had a completely different surname. But they aquired a new one, Tollassy, with has something to do with "feathers".
Some noble family with the surname Graviassy (spelling may be different in Magyar) left Hungary around 1699 and came to France as mercenary soldiers. Find out what Gravia means and you will have the "noble name".
Andaházy Noble Family
"Families of Hungary" by Iván Nagy, 1857 Edition, says the noble Andaházy provenance is the town of Andaháza in "Comitat Lipto". Andaházy is rather a rare hungarian noble name; You can find "only" 15 Andaházy in the Hungarian white pages/phone book at - http://www.matav.huhttp://www.matav.hu - One ancestor, István, was a member of the 1715 Parliament; Imre was a Congressman and Representative for the City of Loecse (now Levoca, Slovakia). Since the end of WW I, Andaháza (Andice) is in Slovakia, less than 6 km E/SE of Liptovsky Mikulas, in central Slovakia. Find it on the map - http://www.mapquest.comhttp://www.mapquest.com - in Eastern Slovakia.
kelt Német Párdányba = dated Németpárdány (now Meda, Yugoslavia)
BOSSANYI (& KOSZTOLANYI)
Cecilia (BOSSANYI) Zerkowitz (1795-1885), from Ilava, Trencin megye, Hungary [now Slovakia] likely had grandparents EMERICUS BOSSANYI and ANNA MAXHOWSKY, md. 1764 in Ilava. There was likely a connection to Count IMRE [or Emericus] BOSSANYI who lived near Bratislava in the early 1700s.
The Bossányis were related to the Kosztolanyi family by marriages many times in the past centuries. Both family originated from Bars megye (county). More info can be found from the Nagy Ivan books on CD ROM - if you can understand Hungarian you can visit the Kosztolanyi homepege at -
http://homepages.ihug.co/nz/~kosztzezhttp://homepages.ihug.co/nz/~kosztzez - the families are related.
Csikány - Noble Family
The Hungarian untitled noble family of Csikány de Ilény, some of whose members settled in Austrian Bukovina (now Ukraine) in the late 18th century, were at first Roman Catholic, but some members of the family later became Lutherans. One member of this family, Adolfine Zurowska/i, daughter of Josef Zurowski, of Kaczyka, Bukovina, married in succession two different male members of this family. In Bukovina (now Ukraine), the surname was often Germanised to Csikany von Illeny or Csikany v. Illeny.
On the Hungarian Genealogy CD-ROM there is a Csikány noble family. This family were employed by the family of Count Forgách, and they were granted their nobility in 1768. They originated from Nógrád megye (county), and owned a village called Csalár.
Keness[e]y is an aristocratic Hungarian name. It appears in the history of the old Somogy Varmegye (hill county) starting in the first decade of the 18th century. Ivan Nagy's "The Noble Families of Hungary" has one page about the Kenessey noble family. There is also a CD - order it at - http://sphosting.com/hungencdhttp://sphosting.com/hungencd +
Mr. Csaba Kenessey in Switzerland, is leader of a Kenessey family association and organiser of occasional family meetings. At the last meeting, there were more than 130 Kenessey's present, from all over the world. Contact him at: 'Kenessey Csaba' firstname.lastname@example.org -
Pongó - Noble Family
Pongó, a noble family, lived in a village called Oldalfalu in the former Gömör (Jemer) County. There is only one reference to them in the Iván Nagy book. There are only two Pongo's in the entire telephone directory for Hungary, and both are in Miskolc.
Ruttkay - Noble (& "un"noble) Family
# 3048 - The RUTTKAY family is one of the oldest noble families in Turocz. They were granted noble status and donations from King Béla IV (1235-1270).
In 1849, Márton RUTTKAY was a public notary in Turocz, and Judge in Komárom. He married Amalia MOKOSY. The Hungarian relatives tell us there is a noble "Ruttkay" family and a non-noble "Ruttkay" family and that we are not part of the noble family (just our luck !!) However, when we were little, grandma Ruttkay used to tell us some relative of hers was the mayor - which agrees with what you've written in a prior post, so I don't know, maybe we are royalty !
Martin Alfred Ruttkay was born July 1, 1890 in Rutka, Austria-Hungary. The family had some land holdings and had the town named after them. His father's name was Gabriel Ruttkay and his mother was Mary Crudek. Martin had 8 siblings: Anna, Louise, Joseph, Karl, Gabriel, Francis, Emil and Ludwig.
Siklosi or Siklosy
Siklosi or Siklosy family ancestors were of the Hungarian nobility and lived in a castle in Hungary. There is a Siklosi castle in southern Hungary. Ancestors were from Veszprem and the surrounding areas.
Thököly (Tekely) Family
The Thököly (Tekely) family, one of the most distinguished Hungarian history-making families, is found in the Hungarian genealogy books written by Iván Nagy in Pest between 1857 and 1868, and just released on CD-ROM.
Urmenyi - Noble Family
Two Urmenyi noble families are in the Hungarian genealogy CD-ROM. The oldest one originated from Nyitra megye (County). If you belong to them, your ancestor is Sebetyén de Ilméri, originally from Spain; this is the 'original' form of the name born ca. 1599. Their family crest is available.
The other Urmenyi family is from Krasso megye (county). Janos Urmenyi was granted his nobility in the late 19th century byAustro-Hungarian Emperor Franz Josef.
Hunyadi, János & Mátyás + 1400's
(& the "Corwin Connection", USA)
A Corwin genealogy book written in 1872 gives a Celtic history of Curwen and Hungarian history of Corwin. It claims the descendants of János (John) Hunyadi moved to England, and then to the New England / Long Island area. Matthias Corwin who was b. 1590 in England d. 1685 in Southold, Long Island (later USA).
Corvinus (much later "Corwin" in USA) was a Roman name of a famous soldier who had a town named for him in Hungary. The name Corvinus is not described as hereditary, but was a town name that later became attached to a Hungarian noble family.
János (John) Hunyadi, one of the most interesting and attractive figures in Hungarian history, rose from small beginnings, son of a lesser noble of Vlach origin. Upon János (John) Hunyadi's death, his son Wladislas was murdered and his other son Mátyás (Matthew) Hunyadi, then sixteen, was thrown into prison in Prague. After Mátyás was declared king by the nobles on the ice of the River Duna (Danube), he became known as Mátyás Corvinus. The heraldic animal of Mátyás was the raven. Because of the raven, King Mátyás (Matthias) accepted the epithet Corvinus (Latin = corvus, crow/raven).
Mátyás might have established a new native dynasty, but neither of his two wives bore him an heir. His only issue, a boy called John, was his illegitimate son by a bourgeoisie of Breslau. One of Mátyás' main preoccupations as he grew older was to ensure this boy's succession, and he eventually reached agreement in principle with Maximilian of Austria whereby John was to marry Maximilian's daughter. Hungary was to hand back Austria and Styria to Maximilian, and Maximilian was to renounce his father's old claims on Hungary and recognize John as its sovereign. But on 6 May 1490, when actually on his way to the meeting which should have made the agreement definitive, Mátyás died suddenly, and the whole house of cards collapsed. The lesser nobles would have liked another ruler of the Hunyadi stock, but John's lack of legitimacy was a real problem, and he himself was of too peaceable and unambitious a nature to press his claim further.
John (Corwin, Korvin, Corvinus) Hunyadi, son of Mathias Corvinus, later married Beci Frangepan, a daughter of a Croatian high nobleman and in the period 1495-1498 and 1499-1504 was Viceroy (ban) of Croatia which was then part of Hungary. John Corwin (Korvin, Corvinus) Hunyadi had a daughter and an illegitimate son, also called John.
It is through John that the book goes into the region of Germany. It is here that the surname of Corvinus is connected to the Reverends Anthony and John Corvinus and a line begins in the early 1500's. The Long Island family called Corwin claims to have correspondence written in Hungarian and letters written to Austria that were part of the estate of Theophilus Corvin, son of Matthias Covinis. What the letters say, we don't know, but it seems that since the 1600's that Long Island branch has claim to a possible line to John.