Dave,Thanks for the info. I have one question though, I have two names for commodore Kises father. One is David as you mentioned and the other one is Peter Kise ?? Any comments on this one? I'm confused now!! I have a whole history on Minerva Garred Kise I found it after geting her name. Still working on Kise family though. Benjamin was my GGrandfather, my Grandmother was Minerva Jane Kise. She was his only daughter, he had one son and one stepson. If you need this info let me know. Thanks again!