I lost the discussion thread, and now I'm back on track. Yes, this is my Kizer line. I am a direct descendant of Vernal Kizer (sometimes spelled Vernon, but it looks like Vernal is correct). His daughter, Loucinda, child of his second wife, is my great-grandmother. It looks as if Benjamin Kizer is his father. If that's true, I want to know who Benjamin's parents were.