Hi Ralph, Augustine-Was he born 7/31/1825? I have this name listed with this birth date in a book I keep of any Klebers that I run into. I have several Johanns listed and they all seem to be tied to this church in Darmstadt called Stadtpfarrei Evangelisch. What religion is your family? All of these (John)Klebers were Lutheran: *Johann Heinrich Kleber,wife: Johannette Pipp *Johann Philipp Kleber-christened 2/8/1826 father-Johann Jonas, mother-Margarethe Hessemer *Johannes Kleber-christened 1/16/1876 wife- Mary Bowser, father-Jacob, mother-Sofie Schneider *Johann Heinrich Wilhelm Kleber married-5/20/1847, wife-Elizabeth Carolina Louise Quiring I am going to Darmstadt at the end of the month and I hope to find more information about my family . It looks to me like these Klebers may have been related to my family.