hi tom, yes it's me from the whitewater days. i remember meeting you as well. i also remember going to the reunions in princeton, aunt liddy, uncle ernie, & all. your recollections of her are most accurate.
we definitely had the same great grandmother - amelia, who married gottlieb knaack after the death of edward fenske. their son albert was my grandfather and my dad was wilbert.
i have a fenske/knaack family tree that my mother put together a while ago. both you & sonya are in it. i'll gladly send or fax you a copy. perhaps regular e-mail outside this forum would be easier in the future. i live in west bend, so i suspect we aren't that far apart. as i recall, you lived in the milwaukee area.
information i have been able to gather on gottlieb would be that he came to this country at the appr. age of 8. coming with his older brother michael & wife caroline. michael would have been about 26. the area of germany is mentioned in my posting on this forum of 12/11/00. both gottlieb & michael's death certificates, as well as gottlieb & amelia's marriage record show their parents names as being christian & eva, who obviously were back in germany. i got his out of court house records in green lake & montello and figured it all out mostly by putting 2&2 together in terms of dates, parent's names, etc.
trying to trace anyone's ancestry back in germany is pretty much a dead end. all records over here simply say they were born in/or came from germany, no further details are ever mentioned. the info i got on where they came from was given to me by ruth lehner in princeton. michael was ruth's grandfather and she also remembers gottlieb.
the knaack side of things is all spelled out in the family tree. lots of info on the fenske side as well, but you may already have all that.