Hi Leon I could not find William on the birth records because they do not go back that far and nor could I find anything on the census' but you could get a copy of the marriage certificate for William and Ellen. That would tell you on the name of his father and the name of Ellens father. Do you know the date of Williams birth? I don't know, but could it be possible that William was actually born in 1829 but due to when the 1881 census, which month, it was taken it could seem that he was born in 1830. It would certanley solve a lot of problems, but it is only a suggestion. I will keep looking. Hope you find something. Alice.