The FHL has microfilmed the church records of Ruthi.On page 90 is the following info: Valentin SORG b.16 AUG 1768 d. 4 JUN 1837 (father:Jacob SORG mother:Kath KOBLER) married his second wife on 2 NOV 1818. His wife was Marie KOBLER b. 31 OCT 1769 d. 4 OCT 1837. His first wife was Anna MATTLE. My Gr Gr Grandfather, Jacob KOBLER was born there. If you would like a copy of this Family sheet, write me at 7S035 Suffield Ct. #105 Westmont IL 60559. The records are very legible and easily read. It also includes a Family Group section with an index.