Pamela: Early in my message to you I told you I didn't have a Lorenz. I don't in our family but on this list you will find Arthur Leibold has a Johann LORENZ Leibold,b:03 Sep 1828 in Weissenstadt, Bayern, Germany.m: about 1854 to Susanna Zeidler of Bayern, Germany. His parents were Johann Conrad Leibold b: 25 Nov 1782 Mother: Friedrich Seiler.
The name has bothered me all afternoon and I went back to the genealogy charts that Arthur had sent me some time ago. You might try contacting him, since I see he's on the net. Good luck!