Thanks for the response. John Julius Lide  that married Mary Jane Lamb  died before 1838 according to my information. An equity action filed in the estate of his father-in-law, Alexander Lamb, in 1838 indicates John was deceased at that time. In 1850, Mary J. Lide  is listed in the 1st. dist. in Montgomery County, AL page 77b [135-136] with her children, Charles W A , Carney , Eliza , Sarah , and Sophia . In 1860, Mary is listed in the 2nd dist. in Montgomery County, AL. P O Ramah, AL with son, C W Lide and daughters, Ellen and Sophia. John J. Lide, Sr.  and Caroline can be found as stated on entry 142 on GenForum. The children are as follows; Rebecca, Mary Willie, John J., Jr., Joseph T., Emmet, Louisa, Susan, Julius and Irby. I do not know Caroline's maiden name but in the 1880 census her parents are said to be born in Scotland. She was living in Birmingham, AL. with her daughter, Willie's family.