Carl's father was Esick A. Lighthall, b 1879, pr Oswego Co., NY, d 1913; he md. Bertha Look, b Nov 1870, NY, was d/o Albert Look.(She md.  Fred Smith.)Esick and Bertha had Florence (b 31 Oct 1892); William James [aka James William], b 1 Apr 1894; Harry James, b 24 Mar 1904; Carl E., b 15 Nov 1906; and Irene, b ca 1912.