Kerry..It seems that we have found each other..According to my information, Patrick was born in 1863 at Kilcoman, Ballingarry, Co. Limerick. He would have been a brother to my grandfather, John M Lillis.There are no records in Ireland to help as the only available surviving records are in the parishes.In County Limerick, the oldest surviving are from 1821.I was unable to locate the parish clerk on my last trip to Ireland.I did find the Lillis grave plot in the church graveyard. As I mentioned, the parish records ( secured through the Limerick Heritage ) only show seven siblings.They told me that during this period it was common to baptize children in the home and therefore have no parish records. The family farm is still going.. Seamus Mulqueen is now the surviving farmer.