Hi Richard, I'm not sure where Gertrude fits into the Liming Family.I may be able to check this out. The start of the Liming Family in the US was by John Liming & Prudence Wainwright, who arrived here from England in 1665. They had three sons William, John & Henry. So Gertrude has to be from one of these three sons.I know Henry migrated to Ohio, this is who I descend from. I think William & John may have remained in NJ, so they may be the ancestory line to Gertrude.