Frank: What I have is from some books I researched at the Mormon Geneology Library 15 years ago, it is not much. IOn Catherine Loder ("Caty" Smith Loder) was a widow ofBenjamin Loder, she had two children with Benjamin Loder. I do not know if this is the person you seek. Have you contacted William "Bill" Bowman on this sight. He has all this and would be of family line you are seeking. He would be able to help you more that I.My information is obtained from Calendar of Wills 1814-1817. There is a book called the "Compendium of American Geneology" That book is helpful by listing surmanes, children and dates, if you can review a copy of that.