Mick, Just to let you know that the Thomas and Pat Ludden you refer to are my Uncles. They were the oldest of 7 siblings (Michael,John, Frank,Bernard and Margaret) who came from a small farm on the road between Castlebar and Westport, County Mayo, Ireland.They were the children of John and Bridget (nee Harte) Ludden.They were the only two of the children to emigrate to the USA. Michael, Frank and Margaret stayed in Ireland while Jack and Bernard (my father) emigrated to England. All of this generation of the family have passed away but there are many cousins still around in Ireland and England. What is your link/interest in Thomas and Patrick?