Re: John Chandler Jamestown, Virginia m. Elizabeth --?-- Lupo
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Re: John Chandler Jamestown, Virginia m. Elizabeth --?-- Lupo
Victor Arean 1/05/07
Anita,
I did several name searches for Elizabeth Come/s, etc. in www.familysearch.org without positive results. So, your suggestions about Elizabeth --?-- Lupo Chandler could easily be correct, but no evidence has been discovered. I know for a fact that in addition to searches for her by me and the late Joseph Chandler Burton, Jr of the Chanlder Family Association (CFA), several very competent Lupo researchers have also look for her maiden name (or any other clue) without success.
I do not know to what extent, if at all, the history of Jews coming to early Virginia has been done, but surely someone has researched this. The places to start, in my opinion and experience, would be the Library of Virginia and the Omohundro Institute at William & Mary College, both of which are online. A GOOGLE SEARCH of the topic may also produce some results.
I assume you are familiar with the coincidence discussed in my article in the Aug/Sept 2000 issue of "Tidewater Virginia Families" that at least a tiny part o the Jewish cemetery in Hampton, Virginia (establish in the 19th century) appears to be within the western boundary of the original 350A Albiano Lupo tract!
Your genealogical DNA questions are not easy to answer; basically, I would have to reply "it depends" to each of your questions.
The primary DNA test that is used for genealogical DNA is the male Y-chromosome, which is passed virtually intact from father-to-son throughout all human history (proof of evolution, among other things). Ethnic origins do turn up in such tests under the heading of "haplotypes." If any aspect of genealogical DNA testing interests you, I urge you to go to the website of the provider that we (Chandler DNA Project) use,
My own particular haplotype -- J2 -- is rare and similar in many respects to the Jewish Cohanim lineage, but even if I have a Jewish ancestor he may well have lived more than 10,000 years ago, which, indeed, is almost certainly before Judiasm was even founded. You can easily find discussions of this lineage online.
Yes, also, that adoptees can often discover their ethnic origins; many adopted people are doing so we write. However, the DNA test DOES NOT provide kinship with any particular person; one needs other, traditional research to do that, such as proving geographical proximity and then finding other people from there who may be kin to the testee. It may also require that someone from the same ethnic line needs to be testing; one cannot match a family that has not been tested.
Neither CFA nor I have can respond to an open-ended geographical question such as "the Covington/Simpson County, MS Chandlers." The UNSUBSTANTIATED lineage data base (lineages submitted by individuals) maintained by Jim Reeves contains more than 100,000 names and is not indexed by locations.
We now have a CD-ROM containing the first 17 years of the CFA "Newsletter" that is in PDF and has an excellent index, but only Covington, GA appears there.
CFA began as an organization seeking kin of 1610 Virginia immigrant John Chandler (as you know), but it has now expanded to a national (even international) organization open to and doing research into (and receiving input from) all Chandler families. This is due in part to the results of the first 125 +/- DNA tests, which have identified at least 14 genetically different Chandler families in the USA, which is not surprising given the (a) number of Chandlers in the USA, the UK and other British Commonwealth nations and former British colonies and (b) the fact that Chandler is an occupational surname derived from occupations that were common in every hamlet, town and city in the world.
A coupe of weeks ago we received test results from a testee who resides in Louisiana whose "pape genealogy" is very good and traces his lineage through Mississippi (including Amite County, but probably others) back to JAMES CHANDLER, son of JOSEPH CHANDLER b.ca. 1735 in the Pee Dee region of South Carolina, However, this testee's DNA is absolutely not a match for either of the three Chandler families that have been identified as residing in the Pee Dee region prior to 1800. Indeed, it was a surprise to those of us who descend from one or more of those families that they too are absolutely genetically incompatible (I descend from two of them, one obviously through a female).
So, if you have names/date/more specific info about the Cobington/Simpson County, MS family about which you wrote, I'll be glad to try again.
jc
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Re: John Chandler Jamestown, Virginia m. Elizabeth --?-- Lupo
Victor Arean 1/06/07