I actually have your postings copied and use them for reference. I have just started on this line in my family so I need information. I spent my week of vacation doing research so have found alot between the Lyman genforum and Rootsweb. Now to just verify the information!! There seems to alot of different versions of who Richard's(b.1580) parents are. I have found several different ones you maybe able to help me with: Richard 1580: f. Henry 1552m. Elizabeth Rande ""f. Henrym. Phillis Scott ""f. Richard ""f. Henry Robert m. Phillis Stane Any ideas why there are so many variances?