Hi Betsy, thanks for all the additional information. We have a Mary Holden who married John(1716-1791) son of Jonathon (1680-1743) and Mary Buckley. they were married May 1751. Is this the same or another Mary Holden? We also so have another two children to John (1733-1784) between Frank and Thomas, they are Betty (1773) and Susannah (1775), is this correct. We also have the Rev William as Franks son, and Harriet as Thomas's daughter, do we have this the wrong way around? Thank you for all your help.