Hi, spent a lot of time at Winchester records office.Photocopied all counties I.G.I which contained MANNERS family, also 1881 census for all counties. Information I sent you were from these sources. I am also trying to trace my side of the Manners family, but am stuck on trying to find out who my g.grandads parents were. His name was Thomas and was born at Dudley Worcs according to his army records but no trace yet!! Anyway hope you can procede with yours.Good luck, Pam.