Hello James, Have you found your Johnathon yet? There seem to be a few on the bulletin bords. This is part of a reply I recieved recently regarding my Manners. Jonathan Manners b 1700 married Elianor Taylor in 1722.11 children 2nd son Thomas Manners b 1726 married Rosamunde Nelson in 1748.9 children 1st son George Manners b 1751 married Elizabeth Gardner.8 children 2nd son John Manners b 1778- (don't know who he married) died 1859.had 3 sons 1st son Ralph Manners married Mary Jolly.They had six sons all of whom lived to have large families 5th son Thomas Manners b 1839.had 3 sons He built a lot of houses and shops in Bishop Auckland These Manners apparently have also gone to AUstralia and the US. I know there are gaps but I did ask for my line. Hope this helps.