I have finally managed to trace the family in a direct line to Lord William Manners, second son of the second Duke of Rutland John Manners and Catherine Russell. Lord William Manners was born in November 1697 at Rutland. He had children with Corbetta Smyth, but does not seem to have been married to her or anyone else??? Does anyone know anything about these people? Further our connection is throgh his son Robert Manners (1743-1810) and wife Elizabeth. Any help will be appreciated.