Hi George, Noticed your now somewhat old message. On 1841 Ince Blundell census there is: James Massam 55 Farmer William 20 Thomas 15 John 11 (who I assume is your John) Also in Ince are: Henry Massam 50 Farmer Mary 45 Robert 20 William 15 Ann 11 Sarah 9 Catherine 5, and at another dwelling: James Massam 15 MS Sorry if this is old news. We are researching Ainsdale and Formby Massams. In particular, descendants of Robert Massam d<1851 and Ellen Cooper? b c 1806 Ainsdale. We think they had a grandson Edward Massam b c 1868 Ainsdale. he married Mary Norris b 1870 in Altcar or Altead Lancs in Jun Qtr 1894. Mary Norris isa relative of my wife and we have much more info on this line. We also have a bit more on the Ainsdale Massam's. Edward and Mary had at least 3 children; Annie b c1899, Margery b c1897 and Mary b c1896. If anything here rings a bell please get back to us. Cheers Ray and Maggie Melbourne Aust.