Hello Jean.Wow, thanks for your response!You were very thorough!
I too had found the record for Vivian McBee.Malcolm does not believe that Vivian has anything to do with him or Bille(y) jean, mostly becuase of the mother's name listed as Martha Warren.I did research the heck out of this possibility and didn't turn up any linking information.One of the few bits of certain information that we have is that his mother and billie(y)'s mother was Vera Young McBee.When Vera remarried, she came back for both children and only Malcolm remained.Malcolm was informed of all of this about a year ago from his siblings.Malcolm feels certain that if he had two sisters out there, his siblings would know at least that much information.
Yes, I've looked through all of the marriage records, we did a motion to unseal his adoption records and they were not able to locate any documents. The texas board of vital statistics didn't have any information for him.Malcolm has physically gone to what remains of the protestant home and they can't locate any records either. (I read that 1930 census as well and yes, it wasn't helpful. I've even had a fellow that works at the Bexar County clerk's office so intrigued by all of this that he looked through everything that he had access to and wasn't able to find anything more that I have.I have literally searched all of the records that I could gain access to for the entire state of Texas!
I really appreciate your efforts in researching this information!!That was very nice of you.I was feeling heartsick for Malcolm around Christmas time as this is a big whole in his life and the holidays are about family...yada yada.I'm going to attach an email to Malcolm that I sent telling him what my results were of my research.Its kind of long, I apologize
Hi Mr. Watson.Just something to run by you........
1.The birth certificate I found for Billie Jean states the following:
McBee, Billy Jean6-21-1930FemaleMother/Martha WarrenFather/William McBee.
Please note that the spelling for Billie Jean is different but I've located this same record where her name has been spelled both ways with the same other information.
2.If your Mother came back for you, do you think its possible McBee came back for Billie?Supposing that he did, theoretically her name would be Billie(y) Jean McBee.
3.I found a marriage record for a Billie Jean McBee in Guadalupe County, Texas for August 24, 1973.On that date she was age 43 and was marrying a fellow by the name of Robert Eller, Jr.
4.If you subtact her age from 1973, she would have to have been born before August, 1930.
5.The age fits.
6.Remember that I told you I found 8 or so Billie Jeans in San Antonio?I cross-referenced my information and I matched Billie Jean Eller to one of the Bexar County Appraisal records.
Bexar Appraisal records show:
Billie Jean Eller
5402 Hayden St
San Antonio, Texas78243-2324
With a homestead exemption and the over 65 exemption filed.
Here is her telephone listing:
Billie J Eller
5402 Hayden Dr
San Antonio, TX 782422324
There is no way to tell for certain if she might be your Sister or not, but it seems highly likely from the research that I've done.I hate to give you this information and be wrong but.........I hate to not give this information and be right!Otherwise, I have no other valid leads.
Malcolm did call this phone number and a gal answered the phone and stated that Billie was her mother and that she had just recently passed away. Malcolm explained why he was calling and the gal was somewhat receptive but didn't think that this was her mom but was going to check with her Aunt and call Malcolm back.She never called him and he felt awkward about trying again.
Thanks again for your response.
7.Additionally, If my research is correct on William McBee, the following Information would pertain to him and his parents:
1. A fellow from Uvalde County, Texas wrote a bio of sorts where he talks of "a good woman roper" he met up on the Nueces.Her name is Sallie N. and she later married Will McBee.My research only located one Sallie in Texas that was born 11-16-1874 that married Will(iam) McBee.Sallie passed away on 04-29-67.I believe these to be the parents of your birth father.
2. In Westlawn Cemetery in Val Verde, Texas, there is a record of a Sallie N. McBee, dob 11/16/1874, dod 04/29/67.There is William McBee dob 11/23/1874, dod 3/11/37.
3. Frio County 1910 Tax Roll:W.A. McBee
4. Bexar County death records records aWilliam McBee dod: 03/19/83.
5. There is a cemetery in Guadalupe County, North of La Vernia called Concrete Cemetery.I have found a burial record for William "Bill" McBee, born 4/25/08 died 3/19/83.
This information was obtained through the social security death records:
Birth Date: 24 Apr 1908
Death Date: Mar 1983
Social Security Number: 455-03-0139
State or Territory Where Number Was Issued: Texas
Death Residence Localities
ZIP Code: 78214
Localities: San Antonio, Bexar, Texas
Death Benefit Localities
Zip Code: 78016
Localities: Devine, Medina, Texas
If you go to www.google.com and type in Social Security Death Index, you can locate the above record and order copies if you wanted.
On a message board on the www.genealogy.com website I found the following messages that I believe relate to your birth father's family.I'm just not sure whether its directly or indirectly.
Evan, my family all were born and raised in and around Frio County, Texas. I myself was born in Dilley (in Frio County) as was my father Mark McBee and all of his brothers and one sister. His father was also Mark McBee and his grandfather was William A. McBee. Most of the McBee's and their kin are buried in Dilley and a few are here in Pearsall, Texas where I now live. My cousin Terry McBee and his wife are currently researching this branch and hope to have more information soon.
- Connie McBee Powell
Would your William A. McBee be William Albert McBee? I have a William Albert McBee, born in Prairie Co. Arkansas and moved to Texas in about 1895-1897 time frame. He had a sons named Wilbert and Charles and a daughter Emma that we know of. He died in Young Co. Texas Jan. 1936. Wm. A. was a brother to my GGrandfather George W. McBee of Arkansas. Let me know if any of this information relates to your McBee line.
I know that both William and Texan McBee are buried in the Pearsall Cemetery in Pearsall, Texas, where I live. Mark Sr. his wife Ida and other family members all buried at the cemetery in Dilley, Texas. I am originally from Dilley and am trying to find other family members who might be related. I know there were several bothers and sisters of William but don't know much about there relatives.
- Connie McBee Powell
Looking for descendants of William D. McBee who was the son of William Jackson McBee, grandson of Vardry McBee, born in Ark, died in McLennan Co. Tx, and possible great-grandson of Silas McBee, Jr. & Patricia Mayes of Ky.
Clay McBee Jr. lives in Dilley, Texas.
Phone No. 830-378-5748. I believe the
John McBee referred to here is my grandfather's brother. My grandfather
was Mark McBee who lived in Dilley, Texas
and my father was Mark Jr. 3/15/01
My family was born and raised in Frio County,
Texas (at Dilley). Grandfather was Mark McBee
and father was also Mark McBee who resided in
Dilley, Texas. Great grandfather was William McBee who is buried here in Pearsall
Cemetery. My address is Box 46, Pearsall,
Tx. 78061. Phone 830-334-2838. Posted on
The McBees in Frio Co. tie back to me through my GGGM Dicie McBee who was the daughter of Jessee MagBee. The spellings are different nearly every time you find people in the early records so I've learned how to hunt for a lot of "misspellings."
Jessee McBee (b. 1818) was born in TN, married Lucinda Poole of TN and there children were born in Jackson Co. AL for the most part. In the 1850 Census, they are in Paulding Co. GA and then in Johnson Co. AR in 1860. My Alex McCandless was in the household then, just married to Dicie.
Alex went to war with the 16th AR Inf. CSA and the rest of the family came to Texas. After the war Alex joined the family in Texas, his first child was born in Blanco Co. in 1866 but in the 1870 Census of Atascosa Co., Alex is listed in the Mortality Index as having died in Oct of 1869. Dicie McKanless is surrounded by McBee families.
Dicie remarried in Dec. of 1870 to Jesse Ward Dancer and they move to adjacent Frio Co. where they claimed some land and had two children. Dancer, F.M. McBee, Wm. McBee (age abt 11) and some others were accused of cattle theft and Dancer was accused of murder. Interesting story but cotact me if you are interested.
I also found this story that probably pertains to your birthgrandfather:
Got a Tail-Hold and Held On
R. F. Galbreath
In 1873 I helped to drive to second herd of cattle out of Medina County for Lytle and McDaniel, from Haby's ranch above Castroville to Ellsworth, Kansas. We crossed the Guadalupe at New Braunfels, and went on by San Marcos, Austin and Fort Worth, crossed Red River at Red River Station, and on to Pond Creek, where the Indians killed a man named Chambers, who was in charge of a herd belonging to Jim Tucker, of Frio County. I and Jim Neal, Hyge Neal, C. K. Perkins and others helped to bury Chambers at Pond Creek. Then we drove on up to Russell, Kansas, on the Smoky River above Ellsworth, and from there I went with another herd to Cheyenne, Wyoming. We were near Big Spring on the Platte River when Sam Bass and Joel Collins made the big haul in a train robbery there. I knew them both well. Collins and another of the robbers were killed at Buffalo Station, in Nebraska, and Bass was killed at Round Rock, Texas.
Our outfit consisted of Bill McBee, Quiller Johnson, Bill Henson, Jim Berrington, and three negroes. All are dead now except Bill McBee and myself. Bob Trimble was our boss. He was killed a few uears afterward by Joe Cordova, who was hanged in Bexar County jail for murder.
In 1877 I helped to drive a herd to Dodge City, Kansas, for the Lytle and McDaniel. James McClusky was our boss. On that trip I met up with Mack Stewart, who served ten years in a Mexico prison, and afterward died near Dallas.
In 1895, I helped drive a herd from Garza County to Wyoming for A. J. and F. M. Long of Sweetwater. John Goggan was our boss.
On the first trip mentioned in this story Quill Johnson, Bill McBee and myself crossed Red River on a ferry boat. Tony Williams, a negro, was riding a mule, and swam with the cattle to point the herd. The waves were so high Tony was swept off his mule, and we thought he was gone, but in a little while we discovered him holding on to the tail of a big beef steer, and when the steer wnet up the bank Tony was still holding on and went with him.
Sorry I wasn't able to be more informative than this.As far as trying to locate someone online, each county only has sketchy information.It seems your just able to find just enough....... I hope this is proves to be helpful for you.