Ian,Thank you for your post.I appreciate your comments.I will study it further.Recently had the following exchange with another scholar.
Linda McKee wrote: Having recently learned of the Neill of the Nine Hostages and the DNA study linking many surnames back to long, long ago Ireland, I imagine many of these surnames go back that far, more or less, always in the vicinity of each another generation after generation. Just did not want to miss an opportunity share this "food for thought".
A scholar recently shared these comments with me based on my above message:
'Just did not want to miss an opportunity share this "food for thought".'
And it's tasty food indeed! Here's a few more ingredients: The Niall of the Nine Hostages DNA research is - to my delight - in line with old Irish and Scottish records.
It wasn't till I got involved with the revised Clan MacIntyre history that I learned that the Irish colonized Argyll and the Western Isles in the second century AD.
The Irish language (what the Irish call what we call "Irish Gaelic") and the Gaelic (what the Scots call what we call "Scots Gaelic") were the same literary language till the 1600s. Today, whether an ancient manuscript is considered Irish or Gaelic depends on whether Ireland or Scotland has physical possession of it. Both nations claim the legend of Deirdre of the Sorrows; Niall of the Nine Hostages is said to have come to the rescue of the Irish colony, The Dalriada, in its battles with the Picts; the ancient tales, recited and passed from generation to generation, are substantially the same...
On a clear day, Antrim in Ireland is within sight of Kintyre in Scotland. Scottish records show a pattern of travel and settlement back and forth between Antrim and Kintyre, with families in Antrim one generation, in Kintyre the next, then back to Antrim, and so on - there's no way of knowing how far back it goes, even just between Antrim and Kintyre, because that travel wasn't regulated at all till the late 1800s. My take is that when looking at Ulster and the Highlands, where somebody is "from" depends on what period we're looking at.
Most, but not all, of the Plantation Scots - sent to Ulster to dispossess the native Irish - were from the Lowlands. That doesn't mean, though, that McKees (or any surname beginning with Mac or Mc) in 17th- and 18th-century Ulster had gone there from Scotland. Maybe. Maybe not.
Also, most of the Clan histories have gaps in the documentation, so while they're pointers, they also rely a lot on legend. We can document a factual basis for the some of legends surrounding Clan MacIntyre, with the founding legends in part now looking as sanitized versions of what seems to have led the clan to Argyll.
And there's the Viking Invader mix. Perhaps tiring of pillage and plunder, the Vikings founded Dublin in 1000 AD. It will be interesting to see what turns up on the DNA front for links between Ireland-Scotland and Norway-other Viking heartlands. I think Irish DNA has already turned up in Iceland, but can't lay my hands on the reference.
** Further comments from this scholar:
About Ulster Scots: In a few years, likely sometime in 2010, the 1641 Depositions Project is going to be online. If we're looking to place the McKees in Ulster, it may have some clues for us. I found out about the 1641 Depositions Project because I write abstracts for historical journals and an article about depositions from Armagh was part of the last batch I did. The depositions in that article cover only 1641-43, but depositions were collected as late as 1647.