A group of us are wondering if anyone out there recalls a story of horse thiefs in the McManigal line.It is highly likely that our James P. McManigal might have a tainted past.We believe that James P. is the son of a James McMonigle and Osse "Polly" Jacobs from PA.James P. McManigal and James McMonigle Jr.share the same assumed year of birth, 1798-99, and James P. McManigal's children carry the same names as James McMonigle, Jr.'s brothers and sisters.David McMonigal posted the following query on the McMonagle Forum:
James McMonigle/McMonagle of SW Penn.
I am seeking information on the family and descendants of a James McMonigle and his wife, Osse "Polly" Jacobs of Southwestern Pennsylvania, viz. Allegheny and Washington counties. James was living in Allegheny County in Elizabeth Township during the 1800 U.S. Census. He may have moved to Washington County, Nottingham Township, by the 1810 U.S. Census. James and Osse had six identified children - James (Jr.)(1799?-????), Daniel (1803-1880), Sarah (1805-1887), Thomas (1807-1889), Catherine (1809-1895), and Rebecca (1814-1857). James was probably a Scots-Irishman, born in Ulster, Ireland and came to the United States as a child with his parents shortly before the Revolutionary War. His father was reportedly named "William" and according to family legend was killed at the Battle of Brandywine. Anyone having information on this family line, please contact me. Incidentally, I have found over 50 corruptions and variations of the surname of "McMonigle."
David has informed me that James McMonigle, Jr. disappeared while taking horses over the mountains.It was believed that he fell victim to horse thieves and was killed, his body was never found.
James P. McManigal seems to have appeared in Ohio out of nowhere.There are no records of McManigals in Ohio before him, nor can we find data on him in Virginia or West Virginia (Lavinia's home state.)Most pre-Revolutionary / pre-Famine Irish emmigrants came in through ports in New York, Quebec, and Pennsylvania.There is a wealth of McManigals in PA.The clincher is that the group of us researching together recall hearing about horse thieves at some point in our lives.Clair McManigal recalls an answer his grandfather Jenty gave him when he inquired about our family history:"The McManigals are nothing but a bunch of horse thieves!"My father Jack, son of Harland Clinton McManigal (Jenty's brother) also recalls his fathers saying something similar.When I presented this information to others in our circle, the response was quite astounding.As a group, we would like any input on this subject.Help me climb from 6th Generation to 7th!