Sorry to add more confusion, but are there two Lafayette Mensers who married women named Emma and had a daughter named Victoria? Or have I just picked up bum info from someplace? I have a Lafayette F Menser as son of James R Menser and Susan A ??? He married a woman named Emma, who died Jan 25,1898, and is buried in Owens Chapel Cemetery in Graves Co. He was left with six children ---David C, Victoria, May, James R, Omer, and Zerah. He then married a widow---Octavia Troutman---who also had five or six children---David, Delia or Delila, Eliza, William and Eula. I think they had a son, Ezra, b. ca 1900. They lived in Garland Co AR, but possibly moved on to OK. I haven't checked that out. Now, can anyone help me straighten this out? I will appreciate it.