Is it possible that the John MOODY b.c1676 who m. Elizabeth SHANNON and he lived in at one time, Clare, Co. Armagh and then in Tandragee, Co. Armagh (or is that Co. Antrim?), anyway, has anyone ever come across a SON for this couple also named "John"? My thoughts on this are that perhaps this son John who according to a PRONI deed/land lease by Hodgson GAGE to a John MOODY, Jr. as he was called on this lease in Nov. 1741, ~might~ be this couple's son??
This particular John MOODY, Jr. from the above deed/lease was from "Lenymore" [sic-Lenamore] which is precisely where our Ydna Alexander MOODY lived with his wife Priscilla DICK.
Also it appears that Alexander and Priscilla named their first son "John", which ~MIGHT~ indicate that Alexander's father's name was also John.
If any of this turned out to be so, it might be that Alexander also had a brother named John MOODY and it might have been that John Moody whose wife was called "widow Anne (nee ______?) MOODY" from the Ballykelly Presbyterian Church records of 1814 who also had a son named "Alexander".
Both had sons named John and James I noticed, however Priscilla's son John was married by 1814 so he was not listed among her children in 1814, but her son James was.
Priscilla also had a daugh. named Anne, in honor of perhaps the above widow Anne MOODY who might have been a sister-in-law to Priscilla or even a mother-in-law?
Not knowing the ages of any of these folks in 1814, I can't easily determine how many years age difference there may be between Anne and Priscilla Moody and their children, but I completely believe they were related via common MOODY marriages.
In my posting of Alexander Moody (b.c1746) and wife Priscilla Dick's children (message #10952) I see that they also had a son named "Alexander" who was born in c1778 but died. This is probably why he's not listed among the children on the 1814 church list. What is odd is that sons John and Robert (who drowned in 1839) are not mentioned either. Their daug. "Nancy" was apparently called "Anne" in the 1814 church records (full name Nancy Anne Moody, which I believe Louise found for us).
At any rate, this all seems very possible, but then I also seem to recall that the John, Sr. and John, Jr. [I added the "Sr./Jr." to make the distinction between the two for this messages purpose]of Lisraw, Co. Armagh, Nor. Ireland stayed there and appear on record over and over again in that townland so I feel quite certain it is neither of them.
But I am not certain that John MOODY (MOODIE as his name was spelled in the early Clare, Nor. Ireland records), who m. Elizabeth SHANNON (the Shannon's of whom we already know married into the Alexander MOODY (b.c1746) of Lenamore/Magilligan, Co. L'derry, Nor. Ireland, his family descendants married into in Nor. Ireland (Alexander James Hopkins MOODY married as his 1st wife an Elizabeth SHANNON and then m. 2nd to a HOPKINS woman in Ireland)and over in South Australia. So, to me this early John MOODIE/Moody of Clare/Tandragee, Co. Armagh, who married an Elizabeth SHANNON and they had a son James MOODY b. 1705 in Magherally, Nor. Ire. who later became the non-subscribing Presbyterian minister for 40 yrs. in Newry, Co. Down, whose son Rev./Dr. John MOODY m. Anne WATSON and they lived in Dublin, Nor. Ireland [please note all the first names..."John", "James" too...the same names that Alexander b. c1746 named some of his sons as did widow Anne Moody].
We have found an intermarriage Genealogical link to this John Moody & Elizabeth Shannon line already as was proved by our great researcher Louise backed by documentation she obtained, so there could be more to this.
If we could just find out who the Parents were of the early Alexander, Edward, James, Patrick MUDIE of the Ballykelly Church records who all seemed to be "of Magilligan" in the very very early 1700's, meaning that these men whose children were being baptized there were born in the 1600's.
Were they the immigrants of some of these Mudie/Mudy/Moodie/Moody branches?
If we could find the Parents of John MOODIE/Moody (b.c1676 estimated birth year based solely on the birth year of his son James in 1705) of Clare/Tandragee, Co. Armagh who m. Elizabeth SHANNON that could be a Huge help as well.
There just don't seem to be any surviving records of the Scots who came to Nor. Ireland with ties to the families they left behind in Scotland and no one in Scotland seems to have the info of those family members who went to Nor. Ireland. Its really bizarre to me.
None of the MUDIE lines I have observed acknowledge that any of them went to Nor. Ireland in the 1600's...ditto for the MOODIE's.
I have seen where some of their wives were born there or some distant intermarriage link might tie them to Ulster but other than that, there appears to be no Direct link with solid proof of immigrants leaving Scotland for Nor. Ireland even though we Know they did.
I guess through wars and weather and fire issues over the centuries, these records, if they ever did exist are gone now.
And who was the "Catherine MOODY of the 1831 Co. L'derry [census] Tamlaghtard-Magilligan??
There was a William MOODY, Esq. of Magilligan [Umbra]
Solomon of Magilligan [Lenamore]
John of Tamlaghtard/Magilligan [Lenamore]
and a Mrs. MOODY of Tamlaghtard [Umbra].
These folks are surely all related to Alexander Moody and Priscilla Dick's branch.
If anyone can shed new light on any of these folks or provide further details from the Nor. Ireland or Scotland records, we would be most greatful to learn about them.