HI Kate I am looking at the copy's of birth and death extracts to see what else i can find,on margaret's death cert it says death occurred at 199 high st Ayr and this was on 2nd april 1861 ,the register was signed by james muir,but i am not so sure about that now as the two deaths below both have present written in the box mine doesn't,the death was registered at ayr by J.D.Reid.I don't know if this was a relation or not.margarets parents were john reid and sarah kinnon.margaret was 36 when she died so she must have been bornabt 1825,I could not find a birth cert or death cert for james muir it is written as moore on his son James's mckinnon muir's birth cert on the birth cert and wedding it referres to james snr as james muir mason ,would that ( mason)have been his job perhaps t5hey married on 10/12/48,james mckinnon muir was born on 21/4/1849 and his birth was in Ayr he was baptised by rev cuthell,someone did a census search for me on rootschat and this is what came back.
1851 for Irvine - all b Irvine
Jane Jaffrey 40 George Jaffrey 10 Agnes Jaffrey 8 Mary Jaffrey 5 Robert Jaffrey 1 James Muir 1nephew
1861 for Ayr - all b Ayr unless shown otherwise.
237 High St Ayr
John Reid 63 Sarah Reid 62b Ireland James Muir 38brother in law - stone mason James Muir 12nephew Jannett Muir 10niece John Muir 8nephew Agnes Reid 39daughter Thomas Rodger 63boarder b Ireland Sarah McFadden 3niece b Culton Ayrshire
On Margaret's death Cert who does it say Margaret Reids parents were? Was it Sarah & John?
This is Sarah & John in 1851 living next door to James & Margaret.
I cannot understand how james would have been john and sarah reids brother-in-law and how the others were his nieces and nephews and not his children, margaret did die in 1961 of consumption. do you think in the 1861 census james snr and junior moved in with margarets parents.
James m'kinnon muir was married to elizabeth mclelland from alba st st quivox on 22/11/1867 in Ayr,neither could sign their name as both have a + I believe this is called leaving yoour mark as the said people could not read nor write,elizabeth was the daughter of william mclelland and jane niven , on the marriage cert it has (dec) written for margaret.here is some more census background on the above family.
1901 census 36 main st campbeltown
james muir 52 butcher born ayr ayrshire elizabeth wife 46 born glasgow lanarkshire malcolm son 19 carter born campbeltown mary daug. 13 born campbeltown mary brown boarder 19 farm servant born campbeltown(his wife) and then to confuse things more from the IGI john mcphail muir born 12th march 1873 campbeltown argyll parents james muir and elizabeth mclellan
james muir born 28th november 1870 ayr ayrshire parents james muir and elizabeth mcclelland
1891 census dairy close campbeltown
james muir 45 butcher born ayr ayrshire lizzie wife 46 born ayr ayrshire jeannie daug. 22 born ayr ayrshire james son 20 butcher born wallacetown ayrshire john son 18 butcher born campbeltown ayrshire andrew son 13 born campbeltown malcolm son 11 born campbeltown lizzie daug. 9 born campbeltown mary daug. 2 born campbeltown robert jackson grandchild 18 months born campbeltown
they moved between ayr andcampbeltown but no mention of where james muir snr (moore ) born around 1820's was born or died.regards katrina