I am posting here my reponse to a posting on the California forum regarding the same posting here.
Thanks for your reply.I didn't anticipate someone would do all this research.I should probably have given a brief summary of what sources I had used.But it is good you did some of what you did, because it reminded me of what Walter had said about his mother's birth place.I had noticed some time ago that he had said his mother's birth place was in Illinois, but I had dismissed it, since Sophia had always indicated she was born in PA.I had considered that perhaps she had come into Kansas from Illinois, which might account for the Illinois tradition.I had subsequently forgotten about what Walter had said, until you reminded me.
I recently obtained Sophia's death record.The informant was her oldest son, Isaac Harry.He stated that she was born on 20 Jul 1849 in Pittsburg, Pennsylvania and that her father's name was Jacob Amon.This was in further agreement with her birth place as stated in all the census records from 1880 to 1930.
Sophia Ammon/Amon does not recognizably show up in any federal census prior to 1880 any where in the whole country, under any conceivable spellings of Ammon and Sophia, let alone in Pennsylvania or Illinois.
The fact that Walter B Mundorff indicates his mother was born in Illinois takes on new significance, because of some new info I obtained from the 1875 Census for Netawaka, Jackson, Kansas.In it, Sophia is shown with her husband Jacob B Mundorff and their oldest dau, Lillie Delilah(my wife's ancestor).The informant of that enumeration said she was age 24, born in Illinois and migrated to Kansas from Illinois; and Jacob was born in PA and migrated to Kansas from MD.Four households away, is another family: Adam Ammon, age 28, also born in Illinois and migrated from Illinois.His wife is Catharine, age 24, born in Illinois and migrated from Illionis.They had two children: a dau, Sophia, age 8, born in Illinois, migrated from Illinois and a son, Berk, age 4, ditto, ditto.
It appears this Adam is at best, Sophia's brother and at least a 1st cousin to Sophia.More likely, he is her brother. It is interesting that he did not show up in the 1870, or 1880 censuses for Kansas (or anywhere else).He apparently migrated to Kansas shortly after 1870.Sophia and Jacob were married in Netawaka in 1873.I suspect she came with her brother shortly before 1873, but after 1870.Jacob Mundorff was already in Jackson County by 1870 and started buying propery in Netawaka 1872.
There is another Adam Ammon who does live in and near Netawaka, however.He is also from Illinois and born in Baveria in 1841.He is married to an Elizabeth.He came to Kansas in 1870, to some land just outside of Netawaka and later moved into Netawaka.I had obtained quite a bit of info on him.While I could not find him in Illinois, I believe I found him as a child in Germany, Adams, PA. No Sophia showed up as a sibling.There is a bio and an obit on him, which lists his siblings and Sophia is not listed among them.So he is not her brother.It is curious that he came from Illinois to the same area in Kansas as Sophia and the other Adam Ammon around the same time.Perhaps there is an extended relationship between them.
Sophia always stated in the censuses that her parents were born in Germany.Her ages vary greatly from one census to the next, putting her birth anywhere from 1840 to 1854. Her death record gives her birth in 1849. Her last child, Ida May was born on 1 Jan 1894. I am a little concerned about Sophia being born in 1849 as that would make her 44.5 yrs old when Ida was born.While not impossible, it is certainly well beyond the norm.Previous to seeing her DC, I had estimated her birth to be in 1852.The 1875 census puts her birth in 1851. Being born in 1851-2 makes her a better age when Ida was born.
There is definately a conflict between what son Isaac and son Walter have to say about their mother's birth place.Being reminded that Walter had said Illinois and given that the 1875 census concurs, sheds some concern about the verasity of Isaac's statements about when and where she was born.I had immediately considered that Isaac might have given her husband's given name as her father's.Even if Sophia were born in Illionis, there is probably some connection with Pittsburg earlier.
Last week, I searched in the land records for Jackson, KS and found Jacob Mundorff and the older Adam Amon (b 1841) buying property in Netawaka.Jacob Mundorff sells his Netawaka property to Adam (b 8147) and Catherine Amon in 1875. This must be when Jacob moved his family to Dodge City, KS. This transaction further suggests a close connection between Sophia Ammon Mundorff and Adam Ammon (b abt 1847). Adam and Catharine subsequently sell their property in early 1876, suggesting that they also moved sometime in 1876.
So far, all efforts to find Sophia Ammon and her probable brother in Illinois, or in PA have been unsuccessful.Neither show up in any census prior to 1875.I have been unable to identify Adam Ammon(b abt 1847)in any other census than the 1875 KS census, period!
For this reason, I am attempting to find Walter's children and grand children to see if any of them know anything about Sophia's nativity. My wife's branch (through dau, Lillie Deliah) only knew of Sophia as "Grandma Mundorff"