Good evening Annette, Thank you for your reply. There are Emily's on my side plus there is a Girling connection but not yet established. There is an Emily which I have found but also have yet to connect approx 1820/1. I am finding Mutimer's of Suffolk/Norfolk difficult - they are my late father's side - I have got to 1800 approx but cannot connect the possible siblings. Take care, Dai Plus having read your last line - have you hit a connection with James and Georgiana ?