Justin what is your e-mail address? Mine is BOLICKI@aol.com. Grandpa's first name was George but he never used that name. Everyone called him Ray. Delbert Spencer You are one up on me in having a picture of Poppa Pierre. All of us have pictures of Grandpa Joel and Grandma Julia. It's rather confusing as there is more than one Julia. I have an Aunt Julia ( Ray's youngest daughter). Delbert is a cousin on my dad's side.. think he's married to Dot who is my Grandpa's niece. Yes, Ihave heard of DeGraff, Melot and Bourdon. Archbishop Caput of Denver is also of the Navarre line. My Aunt Sara and Aunt Jane gave him his Indian name. Sara and Jane are sisters to Ray's first wife Lucy who is my dad's mother. Lucy died in 1973. From what I've been told, most of the Navarres are with the Prairie Band. In fact, I have a cousin in El Paso Tx. with the surname of Navarre. To my knowledge, only the DeGraffs and Melots joined the Citizen Band. The Prairie Band keeps the 1/4 cut off.