Thank-you for replying.Yes that is my Sarah. My problem is that I cannot work out whether she was the daughter of your Robert, the one who's mother was Elizabeth Noddins or the daughter of Robert Ventress born 1862 who was the son of Thomas's son John and also married an Ann. I know she was descended from Thomas Ventress and Mary Smith but was she a Noddins? She had siblings Ann, William, Elizabeth, Hannah, Mary, John, Joseph and maybe more. Is there a family like that with a Noddins connection?