I didnt expect a smart comment like that. It should be understood by anyone with the smallest of brains that every avenue has been explored and the dead end came at our grandparents. Thats what I said before but not in words of one syllable. To ask the question "dont you Brits have death certificates" is a little stupid when just about everyone on the planet who lives in a civilised country should realise the British registry service is thestandard for world copy. Quite obvious that you are not one of our relativews Mr Martin.